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Old 02-13-2008, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 245 limited
Here is the deal... I have this 3" Stainless marine system now, made in 1989, old shool, I do not have 2-5000.00 in the budget this year for a Gil, Imco, or stainless marine system, I need to wait one more year at least, I can get good 4" cast stuff for free, main reason is with this system I have now it is almot impossible to do plugs and work on the front of the engines, if I can change to the 4" stuff for free and not lose power I will do it so I can work on this thing easier.

I mean, ther performance of the systyem I have now cannot be good anyway in my opinion, but back in the day it must have been OK if it was made aftermarket?

Like I said, if the cast stuff will perform the same as what I have I will change it.


That stuff should be in a museum
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I know it!!
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Aren't thos just regular 420 Mercs in your boat? If so, then that stock exhaust isn't going to hurt it much.

My theory is though. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

How do you know the free exhaust you are getting doesn't have a problem somewhere? At least yours works properly right now.
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Aren't thos just regular 420 Mercs in your boat? If so, then that stock exhaust isn't going to hurt it much.

My theory is though. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

How do you know the free exhaust you are getting doesn't have a problem somewhere? At least yours works properly right now.
My engines were 420's, now I have Merlin heads, a tad better, and small runner single plane intakes, maybe another 30 hp total per engine I assume with heads and intakes, 420 heads are pretty good as they are, the exhaust I can was on a friends boat, I know it is good, my gibbest reason for wanting different is that the engines are hard to work on with that front rise, may not look it but it is, also, the boat sounds like it had Cherry bombs on it with the 3" exit..
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400-450 HP .....not much.
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420's had reversion problems with they stock cast, thats one of the reasons merc went to gils way back when. I don't know who makes what you have but it looks like it may mix the water further down stream then the stock 4"
I think reversion is more of a problem then flow in your case. If it works and does not allow water in cylinders I agree Jeffman1000 if it's not broke don't fix it.
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Originally Posted by Griff
You can't put enough cam into the engine with stock exhaust. It will revert water. I would say 400-425hp. Also, you're loosing power with the stock exhaust. It might make 420hp with the cast exhaust, when in reality it will make 460hp with good exhaust. Good exhaust is also more important in N/A engines.
I agree with Griff.
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just a side note , if you wanted an inexpensive upgrade to your exhaust , 496 manifolds work in place of the stock manifolds , they flow a little better and as a bonus there a dry joint between the riser and manifold
i was going to buy a set for my motor when i found a sweet deal on a set of true headers , but i got a few responces from people with 496 exhausts selling em between 200 and 400 bucks , not bad for a small upgrade
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Originally Posted by ENFORCER24
just a side note , if you wanted an inexpensive upgrade to your exhaust , 496 manifolds work in place of the stock manifolds , they flow a little better and as a bonus there a dry joint between the riser and manifold
i was going to buy a set for my motor when i found a sweet deal on a set of true headers , but i got a few responces from people with 496 exhausts selling em between 200 and 400 bucks , not bad for a small upgrade
I tght about that too, I have not found any yet..
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http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=178721

i just posted in the parts wanted section , couple weeks no replies , then i got 3 in one day , feel free to drop em an IM , as i said , i already got a set of headers and wont be needing em

also , what did you do with your 420 cyl heads when you upgraded?
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