single or dual ram?
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single or dual ram?
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Is it worth the extra $900 or so to go twin ram hydraulic steering over single ram? For example: Mayfair dual ram full hydraulic = $3300...... single ram = $2400.
I think the performance difference is related to the symmetry in effort required to turn one direction compared to the other. Right?
The boat is a Formula 271 Fastech....low to mid 70's. Thanks.
Is it worth the extra $900 or so to go twin ram hydraulic steering over single ram? For example: Mayfair dual ram full hydraulic = $3300...... single ram = $2400.
I think the performance difference is related to the symmetry in effort required to turn one direction compared to the other. Right?
The boat is a Formula 271 Fastech....low to mid 70's. Thanks.
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I have yet to hear any scientific reason for going dual ram on a single engine V. I'd save the money on the 2nd ram and go full hydraulic from the helm back.
If it were me, in your speeds, I'd go single. A fast cat hull, single engine, running 100+ I'd go dual for a couple of reasons.
If it were me, in your speeds, I'd go single. A fast cat hull, single engine, running 100+ I'd go dual for a couple of reasons.
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This may not be a scientific reason for dual rams, but there was a thread not too long ago showing broken gimbals, and the dual ram setups actually holding the drive in place. If you were to come off a wave at an angle, and break a gimbal, there is more of a chance the dual ram set up will keep the drive in place. Also I believe it helps stabilize the drive and and absorbs side loads as well. I think a lot of people are jaded, when it comes to speeds that modern boats run. Especially if your running hard in rough water, 70's is moving. Spend the money for the extra bit of safety.
Just my.02 pesos.
Darrell.
Just my.02 pesos.
Darrell.
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Guys_
Is it worth the extra $900 or so to go twin ram hydraulic steering over single ram? For example: Mayfair dual ram full hydraulic = $3300...... single ram = $2400.
I think the performance difference is related to the symmetry in effort required to turn one direction compared to the other. Right?
The boat is a Formula 271 Fastech....low to mid 70's. Thanks.
Is it worth the extra $900 or so to go twin ram hydraulic steering over single ram? For example: Mayfair dual ram full hydraulic = $3300...... single ram = $2400.
I think the performance difference is related to the symmetry in effort required to turn one direction compared to the other. Right?
The boat is a Formula 271 Fastech....low to mid 70's. Thanks.
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In the 70's you will be fine with a single. I have a single hardin system on my Donzi X-18. It runs low 70's. I can't say enough good things about the system.
I have an IMCO twin ram on my 26ZX. I went with IMCO on that because someone practically gave it to me. It is a nice system too. The boat runs well into the 90's and I would use a Hardin Twin Ram system on it ANY day.
Unless you are driving in some serious stuff, I would go with a Hardin single in your application unless you want to blow basically another grand to be symetrical.
I have an IMCO twin ram on my 26ZX. I went with IMCO on that because someone practically gave it to me. It is a nice system too. The boat runs well into the 90's and I would use a Hardin Twin Ram system on it ANY day.
Unless you are driving in some serious stuff, I would go with a Hardin single in your application unless you want to blow basically another grand to be symetrical.
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Dual ram!!! Install a load meter on the high pressure side of the steering ram and let me know what pressures your seeing at 70.. Blow out a single ram and you will go in circles trying to get home. Spend the $$$ and have piece of mine..
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I have never heard of anyone blowing out a single ram from that in this type of application. Those rams can handle some serious pressure.
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Tell that to my friend who flip a 24 eliminator and killed his girlfriend.Single ram broke on a bravo running a 496 @ 78mph!! 1000$$ is well worth the extra safety besides all components will last alot longer.Let me know if you see a P class race boat with 525s running a single ram..He ask the question and take whatever advice is giving but I would give up a few weeks of gas money and purchase two..\
Just my 2
Just my 2
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