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Old 11-11-2009, 02:58 PM   #1
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This is a 540 set up i have that blew apart(prior to me). Just trying to figuer out exacally what it is i need. has an odd set up. The Cranks is a Crower 4.250 stroke. The block is a Merlin III 4.500 bore. The odd part is the rod lenght isnt standard its a 6.405. From what i could find out mean the pistons are 1.520 comp. height. Its a 10.2 tall deck. Im assuming the extra rod leanght makes up for it being a tall deck. On JE site the pistons listed were for the 9.8 engine. Can anyone let me know if im headed in the right direction so i can start getting parts
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:19 PM   #2
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Are you sure about those numbers???
I come up with this: 10.2- 2.125(half of the stroke)- 6.405(length of rod) - 1.520 (comp. height) = .150 This means the piston is .150 below the deck. That doesn't seem right. Are you sure about rod length? That is an odd length.
There are a lot of builders that like to use a tall deck to build a 540. Personally, I think that if you are going to have a tall deck, then use it. Make some inches out of it. To really take advantage of having the tall deck 540, you really need longer rods. You really need a 6.535 rod with that piston. That will leave the piston .020" in the hole. That leaves enough to deck the block to be sure it is square. Hope this helps.
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Checked the rods twice, It measured .405. Had a machine shop take the piston off the rod and pin out and check some numbers for me. Should i recheck them. Kinda has me baffled also. I was told a 6.385 was the most common rod for the 540.
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Young i came up with the same .150 though i did somethign wrong with the numbers. Seems there is alot of area missing out for the compression quench rite?
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Yes the quench is WAY to big. That will make the engine susceptable to detonation. Anything over about .075 is way to much. Ideally, you want .040-.060 including the gasket. You will be close to .200 with a gasket.
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Checked the rods twice, It measured .405. Had a machine shop take the piston off the rod and pin out and check some numbers for me. Should i recheck them. Kinda has me baffled also. I was told a 6.385 was the most common rod for the 540.
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6.385 is a common rod for a 540, but in a low deck block. The normal setup is a 6.385 rod with a piston with a 1.27 comp. height. Like I said, this is in a low deck.(9.8")
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Thanks Eddie i got ya. 9.8 deck instea of the .4 large brother of the 10.2 deck. Rod lenght is center to center correct?
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Yes, the rod is measured from the center of the housing bore (large end) to the center of the pin hole (small end)
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Thanks thats what i figuerd.
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Eddie million dollar question. Order 2 sets of rods and stay with same piston. Or do i need rods and pistons.
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