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Old 03-18-2011, 11:26 PM
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Question Leak down test, what are good numbers?

I'm looking at a 500 HP carb, and the results of a cold leak down (boat was winterized, so was done cold)

and the results were between 8% and 18%. Nothing leaked into exhaust or intake. Leakage was rings.

What should this motor read?

At what point is it "bad" or just normal wear?

And are these numbers good, o.k. or screaming rebuild!
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I would say OK.

8% is good, 18% is not very good.
It could easily be from the cold leakdown test also.
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I would say OK.

8% is good, 18% is not very good.
It could easily be from the cold leakdown test also.
Hi Griff, thanks for the input.

I'll also ask for a hot compression test. And if they are good, is there any reason to do a leakdown test?

And if the hot leak down test numbers still are bad, what sort of money (ball park) does it cost the "freashen" a 500 HP ? (I see the term freshen, I assume that mean rebuild, or is that just rings and reseated valves, I'm not sure)

If this motor will need to be rebuilt, I don't mind that, as long as the price is lowered to make up for the repair. (would prefer factory stock, but on a 12 year old boat, I would assume that might be asking too much??)
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If they my engines and they came in between 8 and 18 cold......I would consider them good. If you are considering a boat purchase, get the warm/hot numbers to have as a baseline.
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Good.
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Originally Posted by 2Slow4me
Hi Griff, thanks for the input.

I'll also ask for a hot compression test. And if they are good, is there any reason to do a leakdown test?

And if the hot leak down test numbers still are bad, what sort of money (ball park) does it cost the "freashen" a 500 HP ? (I see the term freshen, I assume that mean rebuild, or is that just rings and reseated valves, I'm not sure)

If this motor will need to be rebuilt, I don't mind that, as long as the price is lowered to make up for the repair. (would prefer factory stock, but on a 12 year old boat, I would assume that might be asking too much??)
How many hours on the engine????

Most likely, it would just need a top end refresh with a valve job and head gaskets. That should run less than 2k total with parts and labor.
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Is there much of a diffrence between cold and hot test results ? is # 7 the common bad cylinder ?
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Originally Posted by whataride
Is there much of a diffrence between cold and hot test results ? is # 7 the common bad cylinder ?
You will see higher numbers when cold. The pistons should expand when hot and help seal. But if the valves are leaking, then it really shoudnt matter to much cold or hot I believe.

I did a cold leakdown test myself last year on my engines. No leakage from valves, all was into crankcase. Engines run great. Leakage highest numbers were around 14% percent on a couple cylinders, most below or around 10% cold. Blower motors with about 90 hours on them.

Leakdown tests are good to do, along with either a oil analysis or checking oil pressure after a hard run. If at idle, the hot oil psi is below 20psi, I'd be worried about excessive bearing wear.
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Good point to remember about hot oil pressure , is there any method of checking bearing wear with motors in boat ?
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Originally Posted by whataride
Good point to remember about hot oil pressure , is there any method of checking bearing wear with motors in boat ?
You will have to pull the engines in order to check the bearing clearances..i have a rod bearing tools that i use to check the clearances,the bearings could look good but the rods could be out of round,that's why i use the tool..
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