330 Hp to 400 HP
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Sell your motors and find two good motors all ready built. Trying to rebuild yours will disappointing and to expensive. There's alot of good motors around cheaper than building yours . I've tried rebuilding the 330 for HP and it's more trouble than it's worth.
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I know what you are trying to do, I had the same idea several years ago. Do yourself a favor and leave them alone until you can do it right. A stock 330 will run well for years as is. If you try to just change out a couple of parts and make more HP you will blow it up over and over. The only upgrades that can be just bolted on are exhaust and roller rockers.
It seems like an easy way to squeak 30-40 hp out of these motors without really doing anything that would hurt them, and I will get to freshen up some tired parts as well (head gaskets, springs, valve seals, etc.).
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Jeff, what do you think about adding large ovals, a matching edlebrock performer intake, and a set of roller rockers to a 330hp motor? That's what I was thinking about doing in the next month or so. The 049 and 781 heads have a 5cc smaller combustion chambers. That 5ccs + adding a 0.027 head gasket will raise the compression from 8.0 to 8.4ish.
It seems like an easy way to squeak 30-40 hp out of these motors without really doing anything that would hurt them, and I will get to freshen up some tired parts as well (head gaskets, springs, valve seals, etc.).
It seems like an easy way to squeak 30-40 hp out of these motors without really doing anything that would hurt them, and I will get to freshen up some tired parts as well (head gaskets, springs, valve seals, etc.).
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Endeavor, I would definitely try to sell your complete engines. If they only have 195 hours on them, you should have no problem finding a buyer. Put that money into a pair of 502 short blocks, and you will be ahead of the game.
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I'm pretty sure both the 049 and the 781 castings have at least 119 cc chambers, so you will definitely not increase compression by switching to them. I had a set of 781's cc's by my machinist, and they came in at around 124 cc. The 049's are large chamber as well. You might look for a set of the mid-70's 820 castings - they come in around 112 cc. Another option would be the late model Vortec's, which I think are around 109 cc, but they have the swirl intake ports that can limit flow.
I can't stand vortec heads. They have decent sized runners and small combustion chambers, but other than that, IMO they're junk if you want to have any sort of performance other than a stock 300hp ish towing motor.
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Jeff, what do you think about adding large ovals, a matching edlebrock performer intake, and a set of roller rockers to a 330hp motor? That's what I was thinking about doing in the next month or so. The 049 and 781 heads have a 5cc smaller combustion chambers. That 5ccs + adding a 0.027 head gasket will raise the compression from 8.0 to 8.4ish.
It seems like an easy way to squeak 30-40 hp out of these motors without really doing anything that would hurt them, and I will get to freshen up some tired parts as well (head gaskets, springs, valve seals, etc.).
It seems like an easy way to squeak 30-40 hp out of these motors without really doing anything that would hurt them, and I will get to freshen up some tired parts as well (head gaskets, springs, valve seals, etc.).
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I don't know why everyone says 781s have such large cc chambers. If you look up the casting # on the Motech website it lists them at either 115 or 113. That's what I've found on every set I've ever ccd. I have four sets of 049s right now that all measure either 113 or 115.
I can't stand vortec heads. They have decent sized runners and small combustion chambers, but other than that, IMO they're junk if you want to have any sort of performance other than a stock 300hp ish towing motor.
I can't stand vortec heads. They have decent sized runners and small combustion chambers, but other than that, IMO they're junk if you want to have any sort of performance other than a stock 300hp ish towing motor.
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I'm going to leave the engines I have alone and look for at pair of 502's or 454/420's. I know what I had into my engine in my 242 and it was close to $10,000. X2 thats $20,000, I'm not spending that again when some nice take outs will get me to my speed goal of around 70 mph.
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I'm going to leave the engines I have alone and look for at pair of 502's or 454/420's. I know what I had into my engine in my 242 and it was close to $10,000. X2 thats $20,000, I'm not spending that again when some nice take outs will get me to my speed goal of around 70 mph.