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Old 10-12-2011, 01:11 PM
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Quit over thinking it, just do what Bob recomends. He is the cam guru. Just get him the information he needs and tell him your goals.
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Originally Posted by powerplayinc
The boat did 55mph with the 330hp 454 in with peanut butter heads in it, so now trying to hit 70 mph is my goal. Thanks
You probably only need 500-550hp to exceed you goals.
So.....do you build a good breathing 496/502 that makes 550-600hp or do you strangle a 540 with dual plane intake, small carburetor, and small cam to make the same hp. An effecient 540 will make 600-650hp (or more obviously)

Effecient (high volumetric effeciency) motor or innefecient (low volumetric effeciency) ? Which do you want.....
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Foxwell
HP will be about the same, (maybe less) but power under the curve will definitely suffer. VE will be way down with the bigger heads...cyl filling will suffer, and so will tq. as a result.
prove it,and on a real dyno.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Foxwell
Well I don't have to throw a rock in the lake to know it's going to sink. Some things are just obvious...at least to someone who knows what they're talking about (which I understand leaves you out).
talk talk talk,prove it.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffswav
Quit over thinking it, just do what Bob recomends. He is the cam guru. Just get him the information he needs and tell him your goals.
Thats a wise plan.He's the real deal.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by powerplayinc
Anybody have an idea to what this collaboration of parts might make and or with 320 afr or brodix heads instead of the 305 afr's?? closes ideas, speculations or even off the wall lol ?? The boat did 55mph with the 330hp 454 in with peanut butter heads in it, so now trying to hit 70 mph is my goal. Thanks
If you would like the correct info on which heads AFR says you should use on what engine size, go to their web site and read everything that they tell you about which heads to use on which engine size. Just as a little bit of advance info, they will tell you that 305's are to be used on 396-502 BB's. In fact they actually tell you that their 315's are for the same size (396-502). So either AFR is wrong, and some guy you never heard of is right, or AFR is right. As AFR has been doing heads since 1970 for people like Grumpy Jenkins and Junior Johnson, I'd stick with what they recommend.
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Originally Posted by articfriends
Somewhat similar to yours is my base motor my blower motor is built around, 540 with billet rods, 4340 crank, Dart 9.80 block, afr 315 cnc heads and a modified mpi fuel injection. My cam is very close to your 1st cam choice, my motor made 657 hp and 660 something tq but my compression is only 8.2-1. With more compression, a better manifold as long as you pick the right cam and heads 675 hp will be fairly easy. A few guys have built 675-700 hp n/a motors out of 540's on here, a friend of Bob Maderas made 700 plus hp with a fairly large cam BUT in retrospect he has said he wishes he would have went just slightly smaller and had better driveabiility. If you want your cam perfect give Bob a call 585-654-8583, in the end his price for a hyd roller custom spec'd is about the same as what you would pay for a out of a catalog cam anyways plus he is a AFR dealer and can get you your heads for what you'll pay for them most places too unless you are buying used ones, Smitty
One stop shopping,can't get any better than that.
For reference,my 540's make 650hp,canfield heads,crane 240,248 double swap cam.3yrs of beating the snot out of it.sutph30 and group built it.They just did the same for scarab28tomr on this site too.77-78mph,single engine, up to 84mph.So its not hard at all.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Zone 5
If you would like the correct info on which heads AFR says you should use on what engine size, go to their web site and read everything that they tell you about which heads to use on which engine size. Just as a little bit of advance info, they will tell you that 305's are to be used on 396-502 BB's. In fact they actually tell you that their 315's are for the same size (396-502). So either AFR is wrong, and some guy you never heard of is right, or AFR is right. As AFR has been doing heads since 1970 for people like Grumpy Jenkins and Junior Johnson, I'd stick with what they recommend.
AFR is assuming you are going to spool it up to 6500RPM, in a car engine, this would require bigger heads. Most marine engines are going to run 5500-6k max RPM, so a bigger runner is not needed. I am not a expert, this is what I have been told by the pro's.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Foxwell
So what's the difference between a 305 and a 315 and why would you run one over the other if AFR recommends them both for the same range of engine? Answer: you don't know.
You really shouldn't give advice on something you know absolutely nothing about.
From what I have read the only difference between the 305 & 315's are CNC porting, same casting. Of course the flow numbers, more important than runner size.
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Originally Posted by jeffswav
AFR is assuming you are going to spool it up to 6500RPM, in a car engine, this would require bigger heads. Most marine engines are going to run 5500-6k max RPM, so a bigger runner is not needed. I am not a expert, this is what I have been told by the pro's.
Check the AFR site. See what Range they give for what heads. Notice how low they start that range. The word here is range. AFR knows that they are not selling heads only to people turning in excess of 6000 RPM.
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