Superchargers...Whipple 4.0 or 5.0 vs Roots 14-71
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The 4.5L is badazz, and fills the gap nicely between the 4.0 and the 5 / 8.3L. The 4.0 is good too, they're both very efficient SC's. I wouldn't step up to the 5.0/8.3 unless you really need it.
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For that power level, I would prefer a 4L. However, it's not available in a top mount. For a carb engine at 1000 hp or less, I would use a 3.3L. Anything more than that would require a 5L. Personally, I wouldn't go to the 8.3 until I was looking for well over 1300-1400. But, I wouldn't be doing it with a carb anyway. It would be EFI. We have made as much as almost 1300 with a 4L and over 1400 with a 5L, but they were EFI.
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I've seen them as bad as 3+ points of AFR difference from bank to bank when the blower is turned slowly. Once it gets out of vacuum, then it straightens out. We have gotten them better by using our DIS. The spark is hot enough to burn up most of that excess fuel, but's it's still not perfect. It tough to tune one when one bank is in the 14's and the other is in the 10's. Without having port injection, there is nothing that you can do other than spin it faster.
Whipple are absolutely wonderful pieces. And I totally agree with Haxby about the new 4.5L. It is an awesome piece. You just have to size them correctly. Bigger is not always better.
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Okay, great info and responses guys, thanx! I did not know Whipple made a 4.5L too. Wow, I am have been really out of the loop for the last several years with all the marine performance upgrades stuff.and rarely on OSO much anymore with many changes in my life.
Anyway, so what do you guys think about the correct size of a carbed Whipple blower on a 582cid engine (4.3/8"stroke x 4.600" bore)....would the 4.5L be the right fit for my 582cid?....or.....would the 5.0L be the better choice?
Not trying to set any world records or anything. I think you guys know me by now---I just want excellent drivability, shifting, i.e. smooth idle quality, long 45-60 minute idling periods without loading up, etc, etc..
Not sure if this is relevant for for chosing the right size Whipple, but keep in mind, I will be running Big Tube Stellings w/5" collector/tailpipe dia. and want to turn the RPM's to about 6000-6200rpm @wot or so----1.5:1 gears on the #6 Merc drives----cruising speed/RPM @ about 3500-4500rpm or so. Inner coolers will begin to function once the boat is on plane---not during idle speeds. I think the inner coolers are the cupernickle (?) and came from The Blower Shop---so, they're not Whipple designed inner coolers (if that makes any difference or not---?).... and I will be doing most of my boating in fresh water here in the Great Lakes region. Also, will be using one of the top quality ignition boxes made by the guys who used to work for Crane----I cannot remember the brand name at the moment----anyway, it is somewhat based off the Crane Marine Ignition box.
Thanx again for all the input, friends
Anyway, so what do you guys think about the correct size of a carbed Whipple blower on a 582cid engine (4.3/8"stroke x 4.600" bore)....would the 4.5L be the right fit for my 582cid?....or.....would the 5.0L be the better choice?
Not trying to set any world records or anything. I think you guys know me by now---I just want excellent drivability, shifting, i.e. smooth idle quality, long 45-60 minute idling periods without loading up, etc, etc..
Not sure if this is relevant for for chosing the right size Whipple, but keep in mind, I will be running Big Tube Stellings w/5" collector/tailpipe dia. and want to turn the RPM's to about 6000-6200rpm @wot or so----1.5:1 gears on the #6 Merc drives----cruising speed/RPM @ about 3500-4500rpm or so. Inner coolers will begin to function once the boat is on plane---not during idle speeds. I think the inner coolers are the cupernickle (?) and came from The Blower Shop---so, they're not Whipple designed inner coolers (if that makes any difference or not---?).... and I will be doing most of my boating in fresh water here in the Great Lakes region. Also, will be using one of the top quality ignition boxes made by the guys who used to work for Crane----I cannot remember the brand name at the moment----anyway, it is somewhat based off the Crane Marine Ignition box.
Thanx again for all the input, friends
Last edited by KAAMA; 05-29-2014 at 12:28 AM.
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Kaama, the 4L and 4.5L are not available in a top entry (carb version) For a carbed setup, your only option is the 3.3L and 5L. To keep it simple, if you want under 1000 hp then go with the 3.3. If you want over 1000 hp, choose the 5L. This is all based on a carb version. If you go efi, use either the 4L or 4.5L.
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Anyway, so what do you guys think about the correct size of a carbed Whipple blower on a 582cid engine
I just want excellent drivability, shifting, i.e. smooth idle quality, long 45-60 minute idling periods without loading up, etc, etc..
. and want to turn the RPM's to about 6000-6200rpm @wot
EFI is going to make achieving the rest of your performance goals much easier, and protect your investment.