Anyone had oil starvation issues running screens in the lifter valley?
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Wondering if we need to add something about the screens to ArcticFriends' sticky post about oil systems.
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budman,the restriction in the heads plus additional restriction from screene in lifter valley is a bad thing imo.their is a reason we buy large capacity oil pans!i once had an engine come my way that spun some bearings.it had a 6 qt pan with valley screene installed by the builder who blamed it on the oil pump.no oil pump in the world can supply oil if the pickup is in air instead of oil.when we select what parts we use in our marine engines the most important parts are the oiling system.an engine that makes 1000 hp is useless in a offshore application if it cant maintain oil pressure after 45 seconds of wot.im not sure how you plan to run your new engine once it gets installed in your boat but if you built it to run hard,loose the screen.
FWIW, I noticed the oil holes in the sides of my Morel lifters are considerably smaller than the ones in a friend's older set of Morel's. My guess is that they are designed to restrict oil flow to the top end. Any experience with this?
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I NEVER build ANY performance engine without using oil screens, when we raced local circle track there were pushrods ended up wrapped around the crankshaft or some part somewhere it didnt belong. I run my 540 at 6200 for minutes on end, never presented a problem BUT I have a 14 qt offshore race pan and run 12 qts of oil in it, fwiw, Smitty
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For what it's worth, my apba supercat 509 engine has screens in the valley.
The engine is a dry sump oiling system engine and it may be that the vacuum from the scavaging in the pan helps to pull the oil through the screens (no valley scavaging port)
The engine was built by sterling and maintaned by ilmor. Guessing they have a good bit of experience of what works and what does not.
The engine is a dry sump oiling system engine and it may be that the vacuum from the scavaging in the pan helps to pull the oil through the screens (no valley scavaging port)
The engine was built by sterling and maintaned by ilmor. Guessing they have a good bit of experience of what works and what does not.
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Hey Mike, thanks for the reply. I guess the point I was making is whether the screens will really be the biggest potential for an oil problem. Most of the oil that gets to the top end will be coming out of the holes on the rockers, right? It then needs to get through four little half-inch drain holes in the corners of the heads and possibly through the spaces where the pushrods pass through. I have not heard of anyone enlarging the drain holes on AFR heads due to an issue with this. Even if the screens were out of there, I still have this restriction.
FWIW, I noticed the oil holes in the sides of my Morel lifters are considerably smaller than the ones in a friend's older set of Morel's. My guess is that they are designed to restrict oil flow to the top end. Any experience with this?
Boat will be a pleasure boat, not a poker runner, but at beer-thirty, all bets are off.
FWIW, I noticed the oil holes in the sides of my Morel lifters are considerably smaller than the ones in a friend's older set of Morel's. My guess is that they are designed to restrict oil flow to the top end. Any experience with this?
Boat will be a pleasure boat, not a poker runner, but at beer-thirty, all bets are off.
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For what it's worth, my apba supercat 509 engine has screens in the valley.
The engine is a dry sump oiling system engine and it may be that the vacuum from the scavaging in the pan helps to pull the oil through the screens (no valley scavaging port)
The engine was built by sterling and maintaned by ilmor. Guessing they have a good bit of experience of what works and what does not.
The engine is a dry sump oiling system engine and it may be that the vacuum from the scavaging in the pan helps to pull the oil through the screens (no valley scavaging port)
The engine was built by sterling and maintaned by ilmor. Guessing they have a good bit of experience of what works and what does not.