benefits of distributor-less ignition
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i feel like its just a matter of time before somebody (me) throws a foxbody ecm on a bbc with a ls firing order. ( in fords its 13726548, draw it out on paper compared to chevy cylinder numbering. its the same.) go ahead and compare an ls to smallblock ford on paper. you will realize gm took the sbf and dropped a few mil to come up with the ls. take an ls header and a 302/351, chopoff the flange and tell me which is which? sure the ports of the head are more efficient but millions of dollars will do that.
im glad chevy has decided to continue on with pushrods. but i feel like pushrod tech has reached its limits for our life time with oem and they will be moving to ohc within 10 years.
they are already direct injecting. which we will never see as long as we have bbc in our boats.
im glad chevy has decided to continue on with pushrods. but i feel like pushrod tech has reached its limits for our life time with oem and they will be moving to ohc within 10 years.
they are already direct injecting. which we will never see as long as we have bbc in our boats.
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fords ohc is more efficient any way you look at it. not that i was trying to start an argument in anyway with my post. but since you want to.
yes they do make more power with lots of boost. (more efficient)
the 4.6 block is the strongest production block in the history of the world. it went 6s in the quarter years ago. what chevy,toyota,dodge,honda, lambo, etc has thought about that without an aftermarket block. (sorry it may have been a filled block.) close enough to production for me.
economy. ever wonder why the gt500 /GT didnt have a fuel tax and the camaro / vette did? (More efficient)
spark plug issues.
a very small percentage of early 2v 4.6 blew them out. any hack worthy of owning a craftsmen tool set could helicoil and repair it.
3 valve. im sure youve heard horror stories on dealerships having to pull heads and replace engines do to sparkplugs being stuck in heads. i wont say ive change spark plugs on hundreds of 3v trucks. but i will say i have changed hundreds of spark plugs on 3v trucks. guess what ive never broke one off. i run an in induction cleaner through them first ( seafoam etc) and let them set until room temp. then i put a 3/8 impact on the plug very lightly. in may take 5 sec to 10 minutes for a plug to come out. but they come out. (not more efficient lol)
external packaging. as far as looks and fitting into a tight spot go. the ls wins hands down.
now the new 5.0 next generation mod motors. gm has nothing for them. piston cooling nozzles etc from the factory. 800hp at the wheels from a bolt on procharger is nothing to sneeze at.
and now we are even moving onto the next generation from them allready in 2016 with a flat plane crank and an 8,200 redline from the factory.
yes they do make more power with lots of boost. (more efficient)
the 4.6 block is the strongest production block in the history of the world. it went 6s in the quarter years ago. what chevy,toyota,dodge,honda, lambo, etc has thought about that without an aftermarket block. (sorry it may have been a filled block.) close enough to production for me.
economy. ever wonder why the gt500 /GT didnt have a fuel tax and the camaro / vette did? (More efficient)
spark plug issues.
a very small percentage of early 2v 4.6 blew them out. any hack worthy of owning a craftsmen tool set could helicoil and repair it.
3 valve. im sure youve heard horror stories on dealerships having to pull heads and replace engines do to sparkplugs being stuck in heads. i wont say ive change spark plugs on hundreds of 3v trucks. but i will say i have changed hundreds of spark plugs on 3v trucks. guess what ive never broke one off. i run an in induction cleaner through them first ( seafoam etc) and let them set until room temp. then i put a 3/8 impact on the plug very lightly. in may take 5 sec to 10 minutes for a plug to come out. but they come out. (not more efficient lol)
external packaging. as far as looks and fitting into a tight spot go. the ls wins hands down.
now the new 5.0 next generation mod motors. gm has nothing for them. piston cooling nozzles etc from the factory. 800hp at the wheels from a bolt on procharger is nothing to sneeze at.
and now we are even moving onto the next generation from them allready in 2016 with a flat plane crank and an 8,200 redline from the factory.
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fords ohc is more efficient any way you look at it. not that i was trying to start an argument in anyway with my post. but since you want to.
yes they do make more power with lots of boost. (more efficient)
the 4.6 block is the strongest production block in the history of the world. it went 6s in the quarter years ago. what chevy,toyota,dodge,honda, lambo, etc has thought about that without an aftermarket block. (sorry it may have been a filled block.) close enough to production for me.
economy. ever wonder why the gt500 /GT didnt have a fuel tax and the camaro / vette did? (More efficient)
spark plug issues.
a very small percentage of early 2v 4.6 blew them out. any hack worthy of owning a craftsmen tool set could helicoil and repair it.
3 valve. im sure youve heard horror stories on dealerships having to pull heads and replace engines do to sparkplugs being stuck in heads. i wont say ive change spark plugs on hundreds of 3v trucks. but i will say i have changed hundreds of spark plugs on 3v trucks. guess what ive never broke one off. i run an in induction cleaner through them first ( seafoam etc) and let them set until room temp. then i put a 3/8 impact on the plug very lightly. in may take 5 sec to 10 minutes for a plug to come out. but they come out. (not more efficient lol)
external packaging. as far as looks and fitting into a tight spot go. the ls wins hands down.
now the new 5.0 next generation mod motors. gm has nothing for them. piston cooling nozzles etc from the factory. 800hp at the wheels from a bolt on procharger is nothing to sneeze at.
and now we are even moving onto the next generation from them allready in 2016 with a flat plane crank and an 8,200 redline from the factory.
yes they do make more power with lots of boost. (more efficient)
the 4.6 block is the strongest production block in the history of the world. it went 6s in the quarter years ago. what chevy,toyota,dodge,honda, lambo, etc has thought about that without an aftermarket block. (sorry it may have been a filled block.) close enough to production for me.
economy. ever wonder why the gt500 /GT didnt have a fuel tax and the camaro / vette did? (More efficient)
spark plug issues.
a very small percentage of early 2v 4.6 blew them out. any hack worthy of owning a craftsmen tool set could helicoil and repair it.
3 valve. im sure youve heard horror stories on dealerships having to pull heads and replace engines do to sparkplugs being stuck in heads. i wont say ive change spark plugs on hundreds of 3v trucks. but i will say i have changed hundreds of spark plugs on 3v trucks. guess what ive never broke one off. i run an in induction cleaner through them first ( seafoam etc) and let them set until room temp. then i put a 3/8 impact on the plug very lightly. in may take 5 sec to 10 minutes for a plug to come out. but they come out. (not more efficient lol)
external packaging. as far as looks and fitting into a tight spot go. the ls wins hands down.
now the new 5.0 next generation mod motors. gm has nothing for them. piston cooling nozzles etc from the factory. 800hp at the wheels from a bolt on procharger is nothing to sneeze at.
and now we are even moving onto the next generation from them allready in 2016 with a flat plane crank and an 8,200 redline from the factory.
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I talked at length to ATI about building me a balancer with a 58X wheel made into it, while keeping the same external dimensions of a standard balancer. We did all of the drawings, measurements, etc. I just never pulled the trigger on it. It was pretty pricey, but sure would simplify things. My only issue was that if/when you had to replace it, it was expensive at more than twice the price of a standard ATI balancer.
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I talked at length to ATI about building me a balancer with a 58X wheel made into it, while keeping the same external dimensions of a standard balancer. We did all of the drawings, measurements, etc. I just never pulled the trigger on it. It was pretty pricey, but sure would simplify things. My only issue was that if/when you had to replace it, it was expensive at more than twice the price of a standard ATI balancer.
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They told me that they can certainly make them. Like I said, we had all the measurements and drawings finalized and ready to go. I just never pulled the trigger personally. That was really just due to price and limited use. A lot of customers already had a good balancer so why would they want to but another one that was more than twice the price when we could just add a trigger wheel. It was a really sharp piece though. This was several years ago, so maybe they started making it anyway.
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they make one,,8-10 weeks to get them.waiting on a price.
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fords ohc is more efficient any way you look at it. not that i was trying to start an argument in anyway with my post. but since you want to.
yes they do make more power with lots of boost. (more efficient)
the 4.6 block is the strongest production block in the history of the world. it went 6s in the quarter years ago. what chevy,toyota,dodge,honda, lambo, etc has thought about that without an aftermarket block. (sorry it may have been a filled block.) close enough to production for me.
economy. ever wonder why the gt500 /GT didnt have a fuel tax and the camaro / vette did? (More efficient)
spark plug issues.
a very small percentage of early 2v 4.6 blew them out. any hack worthy of owning a craftsmen tool set could helicoil and repair it.
3 valve. im sure youve heard horror stories on dealerships having to pull heads and replace engines do to sparkplugs being stuck in heads. i wont say ive change spark plugs on hundreds of 3v trucks. but i will say i have changed hundreds of spark plugs on 3v trucks. guess what ive never broke one off. i run an in induction cleaner through them first ( seafoam etc) and let them set until room temp. then i put a 3/8 impact on the plug very lightly. in may take 5 sec to 10 minutes for a plug to come out. but they come out. (not more efficient lol)
external packaging. as far as looks and fitting into a tight spot go. the ls wins hands down.
now the new 5.0 next generation mod motors. gm has nothing for them. piston cooling nozzles etc from the factory. 800hp at the wheels from a bolt on procharger is nothing to sneeze at.
and now we are even moving onto the next generation from them allready in 2016 with a flat plane crank and an 8,200 redline from the factory.
yes they do make more power with lots of boost. (more efficient)
the 4.6 block is the strongest production block in the history of the world. it went 6s in the quarter years ago. what chevy,toyota,dodge,honda, lambo, etc has thought about that without an aftermarket block. (sorry it may have been a filled block.) close enough to production for me.
economy. ever wonder why the gt500 /GT didnt have a fuel tax and the camaro / vette did? (More efficient)
spark plug issues.
a very small percentage of early 2v 4.6 blew them out. any hack worthy of owning a craftsmen tool set could helicoil and repair it.
3 valve. im sure youve heard horror stories on dealerships having to pull heads and replace engines do to sparkplugs being stuck in heads. i wont say ive change spark plugs on hundreds of 3v trucks. but i will say i have changed hundreds of spark plugs on 3v trucks. guess what ive never broke one off. i run an in induction cleaner through them first ( seafoam etc) and let them set until room temp. then i put a 3/8 impact on the plug very lightly. in may take 5 sec to 10 minutes for a plug to come out. but they come out. (not more efficient lol)
external packaging. as far as looks and fitting into a tight spot go. the ls wins hands down.
now the new 5.0 next generation mod motors. gm has nothing for them. piston cooling nozzles etc from the factory. 800hp at the wheels from a bolt on procharger is nothing to sneeze at.
and now we are even moving onto the next generation from them allready in 2016 with a flat plane crank and an 8,200 redline from the factory.