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Old 06-06-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by getrdunn
Did you set up your heads or did somebody else do them? Although I agree with you on the spring pressures are not accessive however just what if you put a +.050 locks on one engine to lighten the pressures a bit. Just to try and see if it solves the problem? It would be a inexpensive and real quick thing to do outside of changing your lifters.

Probably irrelevant but what kind of roller rockers are you using?
Roller rockers are gold crane, we're not changed as part of the top end rebuild.

I actually just talked to a guy in MA that just blew an engine with the same symptoms and same lifters. Likely a different setup. I sent him videos and his motors sounded identical.
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Who makes these, I think you referred to them as knock off morels ??
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Who makes these, I think you referred to them as knock off morels ??
I never said they were knock off morels. I said these were RL931 which are made by morel. Just rebranded.

RL931 = Morel 4603 = Howard 91162

Morel makes for almost everyone including lunatai, cam motion, PBM, erson, Howard, etc. I put in for warranty with Erson and he said he needed to talk to morel. I'll copy and paste his email later.
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Morel makes many lifters. I honestly am not sure how they go about it etc however have read they make some of Howard's also. Thing is there not cheap either.
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Originally Posted by getrdunn
Morel makes many lifters. I honestly am not sure how they go about it etc however have read they make some of Howard's also. Thing is there not cheap either.
These were $700 lifters
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I see, thanks for the correction, well... maybe there making so many that the quality is suffering, Im running Morels
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I read that there are actually just a handful of lifter manufacturers. I can't confirm it but certainly wouldn't surprise me. It sucks for the OP though as I am pretty certain he won't get credit for them and I wouldn't trust them at this point anyway. Another 2k plus with gaskets etc and a lot of labor.

If/when you end up resolving the problem with some red zones or what ever I would be a huge pain in erson's azz. Sounds like this is a known ongoing problem with some of their lifters. they do have some good cam grinds for what it's worth.
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Pbm...
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 33outlawsst
I see, thanks for the correction, well... maybe there making so many that the quality is suffering, Im running Morels
A lot of companies are switching. Isky is one of many.
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A lot of companies are switching. Isky is one of many.
Dang man, all these lifter issues,what would I choose if I was to do a rebuild........I fired the port engine on the hose at the house two weeks a go and it made some noise, shut it off and restarted and it was fine.
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