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When I ordered my cam all the vendors only listed cams for 96-00 Gen 6 motors. I thought Gen 6 was Gen 6 so I contacted Lunati and told them what I had and they suggested 20010723. I didn't realize GM changed the firing order at some point. Is that going to affect me? Mine is a 2015 Gen 6 489ci. I was assuming it had the traditional 18436572 order. Bad assumption?
Is that the only difference between the 96-00 Gen 6 and the 01-up Gen 6?

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Originally Posted by HawkX66
When I ordered my cam all the vendors only listed cams for 96-00 Gen 6 motors. I thought Gen 6 was Gen 6 so I contacted Lunati and told them what I had and they suggested 20010723. I didn't realize GM changed the firing order at some point. Is that going to affect me? Mine is a 2015 Gen 6 489ci. I was assuming it had the traditional 18436572 order. Bad assumption?
Is that the only difference between the 96-00 Gen 6 and the 01-up Gen 6?

Thanks.
Your engine is an oddball. Its not a normal "production" engine. Its based off an old style GEN 6 engine, but I am sure most will confuse it with the 8.1L GEN 7 496 truck engine. Those, have LS firing order, as well as yours I believe. You can use an LS firing order camshaft in an old school BBC . Personally, I dont care for how they sound , just my opinion though. I don't see why that Lunati cam with STD firing order, would not work in your engine.

That cam you posted, appears to be a standard 18436572 Gen 6 style big block camshaft.

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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Your engine is an oddball. Its not a normal "production" engine. Its based off an old style GEN 6 engine, but I am sure most will confuse it with the 8.1L GEN 7 496 truck engine. Those, have LS firing order. You can use an LS firing order camshaft in an old school BBC . Personally, I dont care for how they sound , just my opinion though.

That cam you posted, appears to be a standard 18436572 Gen 6 style big block camshaft.
Thanks for the response. So to change the firing order, it's really just a cam swap then? I've never messed around with that.
I'd rather run the 18436572 order.
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Originally Posted by HawkX66
Thanks for the response. So to change the firing order, it's really just a cam swap then? I've never messed around with that.
I'd rather run the 18436572 order.
Cam swap and correct the plug wire location on the distributor cap. I agree that the traditional firing order sounds better.
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Originally Posted by Mr Maine
Cam swap and correct the plug wire location on the distributor cap. I agree that the traditional firing order sounds better.
Beauty. Thanks a lot guys.
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Make sure it has a fuel pump lobe if you are using one
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Originally Posted by Mr Maine
Make sure it has a fuel pump lobe if you are using one
That's what started me down this road. I was swapping out the cam for one with the lobe. When I measured the original cam I figured out the engine builder screwed my buddy. It was a stock rebuild instead of performance parts.
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There are some small incremental advantages with the later gen firing order. GM wouldn't have changed it on the LS motors otherwise. A couple of these advantages would be considered even more beneficial in a raw/open cooling system and carbureted V8 apps. (trying not to sound like BobM here). The updated firing order supposedly has a cooling benefit for one or both (7 and/or 8) of the rear cylinders. In addition to the more familiar "decreased crankshaft harmonics" advantage claim, carbureted V8's also see better fuel distribution, again with 7 and/or 8 seeing the main benefit. I'm just paraphrasing what my very with it engine builder explained to me over a period of 30 minutes. The sound difference can be a matter of taste; on a street car, I much prefer the sound of the LS/Ford firing order over the traditional GM sequence. On the water, most of us will only hear stock sounding 8.1's, and no, they don't sound as good as any bigger cammed GEN6 and older motor.
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There are some small incremental advantages with the later gen firing order. GM wouldn't have changed it on the LS motors otherwise. A couple of these advantages would be considered even more beneficial in a raw/open cooling system and carbureted V8 apps. (trying not to sound like BobM here). The updated firing order supposedly has a cooling benefit for one or both (7 and/or 8) of the rear cylinders. In addition to the more familiar "decreased crankshaft harmonics" advantage claim, carbureted V8's also see better fuel distribution, again with 7 and/or 8 seeing the main benefit. I'm just paraphrasing what my very with it engine builder explained to me over a period of 30 minutes. The sound difference can be a matter of taste; on a street car, I much prefer the sound of the LS/Ford firing order over the traditional GM sequence. On the water, most of us will only hear stock sounding 8.1's, and no, they don't sound as good as any bigger cammed GEN6 and older motor.
Thanks for the info. I guess I'm too old to want to change firing orders unless there's a better reason for it. 18436572 has worked for me for better than 30 years. If the advantages were more I'd consider a change, but for my purposes I'd just rather stick with the old standard.
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HawkX66 ................do you have one X66 ??

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