502s weird problem
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Mechanical fuel pump is not pumping anything and engine will not run at all so I guess we have our answer I removed the screw and it's got gas in it. Anyone have a link on replacement looks super easy but how much oil and what type to fill it with and do I replace just the pump or the pump and housing.
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If engine is not running. how do you know the mechanical pump is not pumping anything ? IE: what was your test method ?
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0 fuel pressure removed output line right off pump cranked engine no fuel at all engine had fuel pressure earlier in day we got on it under load and engine quit I watched fuel pressure drop right off and engine quit after that 0 fuel psi then checked lower housing where pump sits on and filled with oil and gas
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waiting on mechanical pump, thank you guys for all your help so far. I was thinking in my head that the original issue may be different then just this mechanical pump but will have to wait and see.
Here is what doesnt add up to me before the engine quit i had a fuel gauge on both engines running at idle they were both identical 33 psi. that seems low to begin with. When i brought the rpms up the psi went down to about 28 ish maybe 29 but never below 28.
what is your guys opinion about this fuel pressure?
both engines were identical before the one died completely mind you then as that engine died i was watching the fuel pressure go right down to 0. Like i said i removed the output line on the mechanical pump and cranked engine and 0 fuel output not even a dribble. I told my buddy i still think there may be an underlying issue but hopefully it is just this dumb pump.
Just before i left today i pulled the pump off lobe covering is ok no drastic wear on pump arm or lobe cover but loaded with gas and oil. Cleaned it all out prepped it with new oil and waiting.
Here is what doesnt add up to me before the engine quit i had a fuel gauge on both engines running at idle they were both identical 33 psi. that seems low to begin with. When i brought the rpms up the psi went down to about 28 ish maybe 29 but never below 28.
what is your guys opinion about this fuel pressure?
both engines were identical before the one died completely mind you then as that engine died i was watching the fuel pressure go right down to 0. Like i said i removed the output line on the mechanical pump and cranked engine and 0 fuel output not even a dribble. I told my buddy i still think there may be an underlying issue but hopefully it is just this dumb pump.
Just before i left today i pulled the pump off lobe covering is ok no drastic wear on pump arm or lobe cover but loaded with gas and oil. Cleaned it all out prepped it with new oil and waiting.
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PSI will go down when bringing up the rpm on the trailer. No load and higher rpm = more intake vacuum. Vacuum is attached to regulator. Higher vacuum lowers fuel psi.
When you put boat in the water and increase rpm in gear intake vacuum will go down which makes the fuel psi raise.
As far as the base fuel psi at idle, depends on your motor. Some 502's where near yours, other where higher psi.
When you put boat in the water and increase rpm in gear intake vacuum will go down which makes the fuel psi raise.
As far as the base fuel psi at idle, depends on your motor. Some 502's where near yours, other where higher psi.
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PSI will go down when bringing up the rpm on the trailer. No load and higher rpm = more intake vacuum. Vacuum is attached to regulator. Higher vacuum lowers fuel psi.
When you put boat in the water and increase rpm in gear intake vacuum will go down which makes the fuel psi raise.
As far as the base fuel psi at idle, depends on your motor. Some 502's where near yours, other where higher psi.
When you put boat in the water and increase rpm in gear intake vacuum will go down which makes the fuel psi raise.
As far as the base fuel psi at idle, depends on your motor. Some 502's where near yours, other where higher psi.
so i am hoping it is just the mechanical pump then.
the other one died last year, i was not around to help him with it. the water housing was leaking into the oil for the pump and they replaced the whole housing they went to install the old pump back on it and it was dead between housing replacement and the pump they charged him 1300 i was like wtf. I think they ripped him off
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Compared to doing it yourself it will sound like a ripoff, but it is not for a shop to do it. Those sea water pumps are expensive.
Discounted at $710.00 http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s...31902/1614/330
Fuel pump discounted at $223.50 http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s...31902/1614/130
Put it this way, how much do you think the VST units where from Merc when they where available ?
Hint, it rhymes with $2,000.
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s...31902/1614/150
Discounted at $710.00 http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s...31902/1614/330
Fuel pump discounted at $223.50 http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s...31902/1614/130
Put it this way, how much do you think the VST units where from Merc when they where available ?
Hint, it rhymes with $2,000.
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s...31902/1614/150
Last edited by SB; 06-13-2017 at 10:46 PM.