Fuel consumption, gph question
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Fuel consumption, gph question
A friend of mine was dialing in a drag car the other day and had fuel delivery problems. The car is a 56 Chevy with a 468 , the car runs 10:30's. It has a Mallory 140gph in it and is running out of fuel on the big end of the track.
Now what has me worried is I have the same Mallory pump on my 540. I haven't really had any problems but since I don't have a fuel gauge on the dash I really don't know. How can a 468 use more gas in 10 seconds than my 540 at WOT for a few miles ?
What size fuel pumps do you guys run ?
Now what has me worried is I have the same Mallory pump on my 540. I haven't really had any problems but since I don't have a fuel gauge on the dash I really don't know. How can a 468 use more gas in 10 seconds than my 540 at WOT for a few miles ?
What size fuel pumps do you guys run ?
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#1 is fuel line size. you can have 1000 gph pump but if the line is small your screwed. #2 your gas tank is probably a foot in front of the engine not 10/12 feet behind it. Now he has to overcome the acceration , in other words the gas in the fuel line wants to stay where it used to be when your buddys doing a 10 sec. quarter. Sit next to him some time with a hot cup of coffee in your hand and let me know what happens
Understand now? Not so hard
oops , almost forgot. I have 140gph Carter mechanical pumps on my 540's with #8 hose and pressure on the dash never drops below 8 lbs.
Understand now? Not so hard
oops , almost forgot. I have 140gph Carter mechanical pumps on my 540's with #8 hose and pressure on the dash never drops below 8 lbs.
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The way to figure it out is simple.
First, like mo said, there are alot of other factors involved with your buddy's drag car.
For you however, line size is a factor. On a single carb. use a #8 to and from that Mallory pump to 2 #6's. One for each side of the carb. Set the internal bypass and external reg for 6-8 lbs and you'll be fine.
Now, as far as the math goes it pretty simple.
take your horsepower X bsfc = lbs/hr needed / 7 = gal/hr needed.
Check that against Mallorys lbs/hr at psi chart.
The 140 will supply your 540 under the normal parameters of a n/a marine motor.
The 468 can use more fuel than your 540 if it has more hp. The problem may not be fuel consumption, it's probably delivery.
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First, like mo said, there are alot of other factors involved with your buddy's drag car.
For you however, line size is a factor. On a single carb. use a #8 to and from that Mallory pump to 2 #6's. One for each side of the carb. Set the internal bypass and external reg for 6-8 lbs and you'll be fine.
Now, as far as the math goes it pretty simple.
take your horsepower X bsfc = lbs/hr needed / 7 = gal/hr needed.
Check that against Mallorys lbs/hr at psi chart.
The 140 will supply your 540 under the normal parameters of a n/a marine motor.
The 468 can use more fuel than your 540 if it has more hp. The problem may not be fuel consumption, it's probably delivery.
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The 468 is turning 7400rpms.
I've thought about everthing that has been said about this but just was curious about what everyone else thinks.
I do know that the car leaves extremely hard (trans brake) and does carry the front tires quite a ways , so the g forces are a little greater than the boat.
I've thought about everthing that has been said about this but just was curious about what everyone else thinks.
I do know that the car leaves extremely hard (trans brake) and does carry the front tires quite a ways , so the g forces are a little greater than the boat.
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For a boat you can figure 1 gallon per hour per 10 horse power. ie-a 360hp engine will consume 36gph. Now a pump rated at 140gph would seem to be able to supply more than enough fuel. The getcha is that the rating may be a free flow number. In other words there is no flow loss due to pressure or friction loss due to a hose. That's why you'd need to oversize the pump. Most manufacturers have charts that will show what the real gallonage is for a known pressure. None of them will have a chart to allow for frictional losses.