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    Platinum Member Platinum Member Boomer 880's Avatar
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    Question Gauge Removal and Updating

    I am re-doing my dash, and want to have the rims and face plates updated by Livorsi. Is there any easy way to remove the guages without taking off 5-6 wires per gauge? It looks like the rims could pop off!?

    If no easy way to pop off the rims, do you suggest unscrewing each lead or cuting the wires and adding in a male-female plug for easy re-installation? How did everyone keep track of so many wires... ugh.

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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    take some pics first, label everything, then take it apart.... that is about the easy way i have found to do those things so far... it is also a good time to make sure your wiring is properly supported and looking nice underneath there, spend a few extra minutes with some zip ties and cushioned clamps....

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    speel chekk this fokker! Charter Member puder's Avatar
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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    for guages contact trickmarine fred (too old) the owner is on the board!

    www.trickmarine.net
    Pardon me, while I whip this out!

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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    Disconnect the batteries.

    Start at one end of the panel and go one at a time. 2 out of 5 wires on each will be the lighting circuit anyway (and possible a daisy chain). The ammeter might have some extra stuff tied on. Some do.

    Make sure you lable each lead with what it was and where it went.

    The nice thing is that there is a standard color code that most boats follow. The senders will be different colors depending on what they are (brownish grey-tach) etc. Be patient.
    It also makes it nice when they go back in if you "gang" all 5 or 6 wires from each gauge. Half the battle is not interchanging leads among different gauges.

    After you have done it once, you will be much more comfortable with what everything is and you will be able to troubleshoot easily if you have a problem in the future.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    Thanks for the feedback... yes, I already contacted Trick Marine.

    Looks like it is just a slow process and a lot of lables. I went to Radio Shack and they have ties with labels on each. I will bundle each set of wires and mark each one and put a corresponding mark on the gauge. Not hard, but time consuming.

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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    well heres the nice thing about what your doing......out of all the wires going into the gauge only one is different then the others. The sending unit gauge is what you need to mark so you dont mix them up. The rest only consists of ground, power/ignition, and the light wire. heres a color code list i posted up a while back....this should help you with your project

    Boat wiring color codes (edited) PRINT THIS OUT!

    Blk -Grounds-General
    Blk/Brn -Pump Grounds
    Blk/Red -Voltmeter Grounds
    Blk/Org -Isolated Accessory Grounds
    Blk/Yel -ignition stop
    Blk/Grn -Water Level Sender Ground
    Blk/Blu -Lighting Grounds
    Blk/Gry -Nav Light Grounds
    Blk/Wht -Battery Parallel Solenoid
    Brown -Pumps-General, Bilge or Sump (Manually Switched)(Also alternator starter to Ign.)
    Brn/Red -Pumps, Bilge or Sump
    Brn/Org -Power feed to Auto Bilge Switches-Pumps, Fuel/Oil Tranfer or Priming
    Brn/Yel -Baitwell or Aerator
    Brn/Grn -Fresh Water Pump/Water Maker
    Brn/Blu -Head Pump
    Brn/Vio -Washdown Pump
    Brn/Wht -trim pos sender
    Red - Battery Feeds Unprotected
    Red/Vio -Misc. Accy. Main Feed Protected (fused) from batt to trim panel.
    Pink -Fuel Sender
    Org/Blk -Audio System Feed
    Org/Brn -Electric Head-Sanitation System
    Org/Red -Wiper Port
    Orange -Accessories common feed- Dist Panel to Acc switch-Anode Electrode-Mercathode
    Org/Yel -Diesel Pre-heat
    Org/Grn -Wiper Stbd
    Org/Blu -Communications Equipment
    Org/Vio -Navigation Equipment
    Org/Wht -Wiper Center
    Yel/Blk -Choke - Neutral saftey trans mounted
    Yel/Red -Start Solenoid(starting circut), Neutral Safety
    Yel/Org -Powered Ventilation, Fans
    Yellow -Bilge Blowers -(also alternator DC output)
    Yel/Wht -Rudder Angle Sender
    Grn/Red -Stop Solenoid/Kill Switch
    Grn/Yel -AC Grounding
    Green -Bonding
    Grn/Wht -Engine Trim in and or tilt down
    Grn/Org -Engine Independent Trim down
    Blu/Blk -Cabin Lights
    Blu/Brn -Oil Temp Send
    Blu/Red -Cabin or Cockpit Lights Port
    Blu/Org -Engine Independent Tilt Up
    Blu/Yel -Lighting Circuits to Remote Send
    Blu/Grn -Cabin or Cockpit Lights Stbd
    Blu -Instrument & General Lighting
    Blu/Vio -Courtesy, Boarding Lighting
    Blu/Wht -Engine Trim Outand/or Tilt Up
    Light Blue -Oil Pressure
    Vio/Red -Eng. or Generator B+ from Breaker
    Vio/Yel -I/O Trim Up (ballast bypass)
    Vio/Grn -I/O Trim Down
    Vio -12v Ignition-Generator or Engine
    Vio/Wht -Trim "Trailer" switch
    Gry/Blk -Mast Light
    Gry/Red -Spotlight Remote
    Gry/Org -Docking Lights
    Gry/Grn -Strobe or Beacon
    Gry/Blu -Spreader/Flood Lights
    Gry/Vio -Windlass/Winch
    Gray -Navigation (running) Lights, Tach. Send
    Gry/Wht -Anchor Light
    Wht/Brn -Temp. Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Red -Fuel Alarm or Indicator -((Ignition module to Dist.)Mercury Thunderbolt Ignition)
    Wht/Org -Fire Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Yel -Air Flow Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Grn -Water Press/Flow Alarm or Indicator - ((Ignition module to Dist.)Mercury Thunderbolt Ignition)
    Wht/Blu -Oil Press Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Vio -Voltage Alarm or Indicator
    White -General Alarm Usage, Yamaha Kill Switch
    Tan - Water Temp sender
    Tan/Blu -Warning system sense wire (Audio warning)
    Pink -Fuel sender


    oh and just take you time with it all.......and dont do something like what a buddy of mine did to "try and help me out" by pulling the dash appart before i could get there!!!! spent the next 90min tracing wires down cause none of the circut breakers worked at the time either!
    Last edited by Wally; 12-28-2006 at 02:19 PM.
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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    i helped a buddy do a boat, all red or black...... that was fun...

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    Re: Gauge Removal and Updating

    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor
    The nice thing is that there is a standard color code that most boats follow. The senders will be different colors depending on what they are (brownish grey-tach) etc. Be patient.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wally
    well heres the nice thing about what your doing......out of all the wires going into the gauge only one is different then the others. The sending unit gauge is what you need to mark so you dont mix them up. The rest only consists of ground, power/ignition, and the light wire. heres a color code list i posted up a while back....this should help you with your project
    See.... I learned everything I know from Wally and Iggy.
    I saw Wally's post last year and printed that cheat sheet out for future reference.


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