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03-09-2005, 09:50 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
I switched my boat over from the merc system to full hydraulic.
I tried the add on system but still had slop, which was probably coming from the rotary helm unit. After a while they just plain wear out and need to be replaced. At that point you are better off just going full hydraulic. Its a pretty simple install. The worst part is hanging over the motor and getting the old merc stuff off.
The one add on system that I have ever seen work as well as full hydraulic was on Active Thunder Todds boat BESTREVENGE. It was an add on system but the helm was a dual rack setup similar to what they use in high perf bassboats. I could not tell the difference when I drove his as compared to a full hydraulic system. So if for some reason you cannot go full hydraulic this may be an alternative.
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03-09-2005, 09:58 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
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Something else had to be wrong to have 7 inches of play. There are a lot of boats that come form the factory with cable assisted hydraulic steering. I can not believe they are all that bad.
I will find out this season. I installed cable assisted steering in my boat this fall after calling at least 10 different companies. They all said cable assist should be fine for my application, since my boat tops out in the 70's, but full would be better. Full should be better, it costs another 1200-1800 dollars.
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It did not always have 7" of play it started at 3" and would get worse. I did replace the Helm once and adjusted the cable many times. It would just keep going back out after a while. I actually measured it because I was working with the factory on this and they were sending me parts at no charge trying to resolve it.
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03-09-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
The dual rack system sounds interesting but I have to wonder what the cost difference would be from just adding the Hydraulics?
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03-09-2005, 10:43 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
Scott, with 7 inches of play the stock system would have been safer. Hopefully for my sake you had a unique situation. My engines are out now, but the money tree doesn't have any leaves on it, so I am going to have to find out how the cable assist system works.
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03-09-2005, 10:56 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
"the money tree doesn't have any leaves on it"
I hate it when that happens!
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12-07-2005, 06:52 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
Just finished reading this thread and couldn't help wondering what Ken Warby used on his world record boat,cable assist or full hydraulic.So i checked.Looks like cable no assist.
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12-07-2005, 08:28 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
I added a "add on " last year... made a huge differance...but theres still cable slop... adding hydraulic helm.. this year....
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12-07-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
On my boat when i got it, it had 0 cable slop but my tiller arm was in bad shape there was 2” of movement there do to lack of maintenance from the last owner. I new this going into the deal and factored it into the final price. I was going to have it removed and replaced but after talking to a few steering companies I went the add on route. My OE was a Saginaw system and the tiller is still hooked up. It is a little hard at Idle but my wife has no problem with it. I have not modified the valve yet, that is the next step to see how it works. So far I am 100% satisfied with it.
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12-07-2005, 10:45 AM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
I have the old cable over hydraulic system on a 10 Meter Fountain. What parts would I need to convert to full hydraulic? And what parts can I keep? Top speed is around 85 and it feels a little loose at times.
Thanks,
Doug
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12-07-2005, 08:16 PM
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Re: Cable Assist Hydraulic Steering Vs Full Hydraulic
Cmoney, what cable assist setup are you going with? I'm planning on ripping out the dash steering rotary setup this winter and have been looking at options. Would love full hydraulic, but just don't have the cash for it....
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