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Old 09-22-2010, 03:19 PM
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I meant it kinda looks like a Baja didn't by any means say it performed like one !
I have been to the Sunsation factory and met with Joe he is a very nice guy and they sound like they did there home work and keep doing it to come up with new ideas.

I'm running a rather high X dimension on my formula (4") so I know what that means when encountering big waves. So what type of boat should I look at then for lake MI area running?
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Old 09-22-2010, 03:26 PM
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Why a Pantera ? What is so different about that type of boat? what about a 1987 Baja force 27' found one for sale looks ruff now as far as paint but transom it good stringers are good been stored indoors int is good and it has a new 454 with fresh drive only draw back is it's an alpha ! Not sure of the weight or the beam size just yet still trying to look up specs on it.
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The boats I talked about are able to take the beating the great lakes will hand out, built old school. Lots of stuff broke on the 50 Nor Tech on the same trip we had 2 36 APACHES that nothing broke on, we just got wet.
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Ah I see ok will look for one you recommended thanks Again
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FORMULAfast
Why a Pantera ? What is so different about that type of boat? it.
Panteras are a hand built custom boat , Baja's are production boats.
Typically (not always) hand built custom boats built "old shcool" are heavier,tougher and have more reinforcement than a production style boat. Things like top and bottom fiberglassed togther instead of just screwed together, Thru bolted fittings instead of just lagged in,etc..
How many Baja's have you seen in an offshore race?
How many Panteras?
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:30 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssusWKXS0iA

35 Fountain running with a 28 Pantera ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbH9Qdp7C8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelhY3NhecI
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PANTERA'S are AWESOME... tho i'll probably still buy something else in the mid 30's range as my next boat... great pics!
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nykamp
The boats I talked about are able to take the beating the great lakes will hand out, built old school. Lots of stuff broke on the 50 Nor Tech on the same trip we had 2 36 APACHES that nothing broke on, we just got wet.
Must have been some NASTY weather to tear up a 50ft Nor Tech.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:15 AM
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Found a 1994 27' scarab w/580 ci Dart engine, solid roller cam,roller rockers, air gap intake,1050 holley carb,lightning headers, twin bats new, custom paint,w/matching int,new stereo,amp,subs,new covers,mooring, camper, bimini, says it runs 70 mph loaded and 75+ light on GPS !
would this be a good boat for MI great lakes area ?
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Originally Posted by FORMULAfast
Found a 1994 27' scarab w/580 ci Dart engine, solid roller cam,roller rockers, air gap intake,1050 holley carb,lightning headers, twin bats new, custom paint,w/matching int,new stereo,amp,subs,new covers,mooring, camper, bimini, says it runs 70 mph loaded and 75+ light on GPS !
would this be a good boat for MI great lakes area ?
Scarabs are nice boats... but if u were to go scarab id go 29, with a 27 there will be more days where u want to stay in the channel. The 29 w/ twins would make a very nice great lakes boat
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