Support Your Troops PR - LOTO
06-12-2011, 04:18 PM
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I am in total agreement!, But I still think the big picture is being missed.
The event is great for the lake, the participants and troops.
But by making a couple of simple changes to the route, ie, closing down the lake for the start of the event, it would give the best of everything people are there to see, the spectators as well as the participants. This would also be the very best way to have a safe event.
I just think intimidation is the WRONG way to to promote safety and enthusiasm, Positive reinforcement and education leads to better tourism, and a better economy for the lake.
The best part, my suggestion costs absolutly zero to impliment.
I am not saying anyone really wants to listen, but it is a suggestion...
The event is great for the lake, the participants and troops.
But by making a couple of simple changes to the route, ie, closing down the lake for the start of the event, it would give the best of everything people are there to see, the spectators as well as the participants. This would also be the very best way to have a safe event.
I just think intimidation is the WRONG way to to promote safety and enthusiasm, Positive reinforcement and education leads to better tourism, and a better economy for the lake.
The best part, my suggestion costs absolutly zero to impliment.
I am not saying anyone really wants to listen, but it is a suggestion...
06-12-2011, 05:58 PM
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Bajaholic - I don't disagree with your comment and IMO you could be on to something. However, I would imagine it would be difficult to get the regulatory agencies (MO WP) to make the effort to establish something similar to your proposal. It is more than likely much easier for and more financially beneficial to the MO WP to implement a speed limit for the event to elevate safety precautions and apply ticketing to those who do not follow. I still think it is a great event and believe the organizers are doing a great job promoting , scheduling and permitting the event.
06-12-2011, 07:48 PM
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I am in total agreement!, But I still think the big picture is being missed.
The event is great for the lake, the participants and troops.
But by making a couple of simple changes to the route, ie, closing down the lake for the start of the event, it would give the best of everything people are there to see, the spectators as well as the participants. This would also be the very best way to have a safe event.
I just think intimidation is the WRONG way to to promote safety and enthusiasm, Positive reinforcement and education leads to better tourism, and a better economy for the lake.
The best part, my suggestion costs absolutly zero to impliment.
I am not saying anyone really wants to listen, but it is a suggestion...
The event is great for the lake, the participants and troops.
But by making a couple of simple changes to the route, ie, closing down the lake for the start of the event, it would give the best of everything people are there to see, the spectators as well as the participants. This would also be the very best way to have a safe event.
I just think intimidation is the WRONG way to to promote safety and enthusiasm, Positive reinforcement and education leads to better tourism, and a better economy for the lake.
The best part, my suggestion costs absolutly zero to impliment.
I am not saying anyone really wants to listen, but it is a suggestion...
06-13-2011, 06:55 AM
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If you are new to the run please introduce yourself on Thursday night to me, it's always nice to put a name to a face. My wife and I got nine banners hung up on Friday and I'm getting stoked about the run. We have people on the way from MN and TX that we only get to see a few times a year. Hope to see as many new faces as possible Thursday night at H. Toad at the 7mm.
06-13-2011, 12:03 PM
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Eddie - I agree with your comment. In addition, I would love to meet you & say hi. it looks like you guys as organizers do a fabulous job for this run and the benefits it provides.
06-13-2011, 05:58 PM
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Many times, what people hear and what is true is two completely different things...
There was a couple of tickets issued weeks after the event, but they were found to not be prosecutable, it was much more political than enforcement!
My guess the arrest that may have been associated to any tickets, were for fail to appear, not because of the actual non existant arrest... Just missing the court date.
There was a couple of tickets issued weeks after the event, but they were found to not be prosecutable, it was much more political than enforcement!
My guess the arrest that may have been associated to any tickets, were for fail to appear, not because of the actual non existant arrest... Just missing the court date.
But either way, there will be boats running over 70, you can count on it.
06-13-2011, 06:46 PM
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What I heard was 4 tickets, correct? and only one was actually found guilty of the "ticketed" charge was the one that didn't show up for any of the hearings, and MAY have had an issue with the non-appearance? But hey, in many cases: "I heard" can have 46 variations of the same story, so my version may not even be close, Personally I wasn't one of the "People", Thank goodness!
I still want to make it clear... For me, on this issue, it is not worth the hassle to fight the system, I just feel there are better alternatives that everyone could find acceptable in the year's to come.
We are VERY much in support of everything the MWBP crew is doing, it is a great event and we are proud to be part of it, in years past and years to come!
I still want to make it clear... For me, on this issue, it is not worth the hassle to fight the system, I just feel there are better alternatives that everyone could find acceptable in the year's to come.
We are VERY much in support of everything the MWBP crew is doing, it is a great event and we are proud to be part of it, in years past and years to come!
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06-16-2011, 11:56 AM
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Let me throw my .02 in here.
I got several calls from the WP after our last event. They wanted a face to face meeting before they would issue another permit for this years event.
Over the winter we sat down with the WP and they explained their concerns and we explained ours. They are in a tough spot. When they issue any regatta permit, it says right on the permit, that a 60mph speed limit is in effect. This has never really been an issue, as most people run on the lake the same way they run every weekend when there is no speed limit.
What happened last year, is that one very vocal, local resident filmed and copied youTube videos of some of the 150mph + boats and proceeded to flood the WP's inbox with these and messages about how they weren't enforcing their own rules.
We explained that with a True 60mph speed limit, we really can't put on a poker run, as no one will show up if they think they're going to get a ticket for going 61.
The WP agreed to 70 and stated that they're not out to ruin the event, in fact they support the event and are happy we are hosting it again at the lake for the military charity. They do have a job to do which is keep the lake safe. They said that they are not going to harass someone that hits 75, but if you decide to run 150 down the lake, then they are probably not only going to stop you, but it will be the end of poker runs for us and probably poker runs in general at the lake.
I truly believe that if everyone just uses a bit of common sense this won't be an issue at all. This is a great event that raises a ton of money for a great cause. Its a fantastic opportunity for a lot of people at the lake to get to see amazing hardware, and for us to be ambassadors for power boating.
The last thing we want is an accident or for someone to get hurt, we also would hate to have this event canceled in the future, and this is our opportunity to show the locals and the water patrol that poker runs can continue to be held at LOTO in a safe manner that still provides a great day of boating for everyone.
Hope that clears up a few things. Hope to see you all there!!!
I got several calls from the WP after our last event. They wanted a face to face meeting before they would issue another permit for this years event.
Over the winter we sat down with the WP and they explained their concerns and we explained ours. They are in a tough spot. When they issue any regatta permit, it says right on the permit, that a 60mph speed limit is in effect. This has never really been an issue, as most people run on the lake the same way they run every weekend when there is no speed limit.
What happened last year, is that one very vocal, local resident filmed and copied youTube videos of some of the 150mph + boats and proceeded to flood the WP's inbox with these and messages about how they weren't enforcing their own rules.
We explained that with a True 60mph speed limit, we really can't put on a poker run, as no one will show up if they think they're going to get a ticket for going 61.
The WP agreed to 70 and stated that they're not out to ruin the event, in fact they support the event and are happy we are hosting it again at the lake for the military charity. They do have a job to do which is keep the lake safe. They said that they are not going to harass someone that hits 75, but if you decide to run 150 down the lake, then they are probably not only going to stop you, but it will be the end of poker runs for us and probably poker runs in general at the lake.
I truly believe that if everyone just uses a bit of common sense this won't be an issue at all. This is a great event that raises a ton of money for a great cause. Its a fantastic opportunity for a lot of people at the lake to get to see amazing hardware, and for us to be ambassadors for power boating.
The last thing we want is an accident or for someone to get hurt, we also would hate to have this event canceled in the future, and this is our opportunity to show the locals and the water patrol that poker runs can continue to be held at LOTO in a safe manner that still provides a great day of boating for everyone.
Hope that clears up a few things. Hope to see you all there!!!
06-16-2011, 05:53 PM
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That was a mouthful. Good to know all the info behind the probation and or stronger speed enforcement. Still will be a great event for the cause. See everybody next Thurs.
Should burn a lot less fuel this time around.
Should burn a lot less fuel this time around.
