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Old 11-09-2009, 12:47 AM
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Using a cupped 30 Bravo 4 and hitting the rev guard hard at 5450 @ 93mph. Thinking it may be time for a 32? Not sure where to go, any suggestions. Power from a whippled 496 with forged internals, CMI headers and 7lbs of boost. Thanks.
BTW this was my first day @ 7lbs of boost......WOW!
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Can you get the rev limiter raised? If so, I would have it raised to 5800. Is the 30 stock? If so add about .020 cup, no more. The 32 takes a lot of work to get them to hook up right. Never seen 2 of them run the same. They have a good amount of slip.
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Originally Posted by xcpilot
Using a cupped 30 Bravo 4 and hitting the rev guard hard at 5450 @ 93mph. Thinking it may be time for a 32? Not sure where to go, any suggestions. Power from a whippled 496 with forged internals, CMI headers and 7lbs of boost. Thanks.
BTW this was my first day @ 7lbs of boost......WOW!
Raising your limiter should also give you another pound of boost, and horsepower comes with boost. With forged internals you should be OK @ 5800/5900. I wouldn't run it there all day, but for occaisional blasts, it's OK.
A 30" P5-X or Herring 5 blade (really are 30" pitch, and the extra blade will pull Rs down some too, with more efficient slip #s) would be a good test if you can find one, or a 32" B1 with cupping similar to your 30".
Sounds like you have your boat dialed in nicely. Congrats.
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Somewhere the math is off...
at 29 pitch.. which is what a 30 is stock.. slip is at 6.7%
at 30 pitch .. slip is at a little over 9%

It is hard to believe that a Bravo prop has slip that low ... Hmmm

Anyway... I agree with Steve... demo a Hydromotive 30 P5x. Hydromotive has a demo program. Going up 1 inch in the hydromotives pitch will reduce rpm aproximately 150-170 rpm.

That is my favorite all-around prop.

I regularly spin a labbed 30 p5x at 5600 rpm to 92.8 mph which equals about 12.2% slip

Sounds like your boat is running pretty darn good.


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Read the post for prop ~600 hp rage. I run approx same 750 hp (whipple 500EFI) & turn a 32 labbed 5400ish & 90ish. My prop slip calcs are around 17-18%. Slip drops with my labbed 28 to about 15-16% on the 5750 limiter @ 84mph. 32 labbed should be what you need. I don't see how 93 is possible with that prop & that rpm. Desert Rage & I have compared/tried many props with comparable hp & consistent results.
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Originally Posted by 90mphRAGE
Read the post for prop ~600 hp rage. I run approx same 750 hp (whipple 500EFI) & turn a 32 labbed 5400ish & 90ish. My prop slip calcs are around 17-18%. Slip drops with my labbed 28 to about 15-16% on the 5750 limiter @ 84mph. 32 labbed should be what you need. I don't see how 93 is possible with that prop & that rpm. Desert Rage & I have compared/tried many props with comparable hp & consistent results.
As I said... the math doesn't add up.

Either the GPS is wrong, or the tach is off (which is quite often the case), or this is a fuzzy number for speed.

Something doesn't add up.

I am glad the boat is running well though, and that you are having fun... that is what it all about in the end.

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I do see where you hitting the rev limiter at 5450 so the tach seems right I suppose.
However I don't recall any mention of this detail ; Is this with a GPS speedo?

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Originally Posted by Nordicflame
I do see where you hitting the rev limiter at 5450 so the tach seems right I suppose.
However I don't recall any mention of this detail ; Is this with a GPS speedo?
A non-GPS speedo would make sense.

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He said the 30" prop was cupped. It's possible to knock a couple of hundred rpm off with heavy cupping, so that could skew the slip numbers quite a bit.


Originally Posted by CB-BLR
Somewhere the math is off...
at 29 pitch.. which is what a 30 is stock.. slip is at 6.7%
at 30 pitch .. slip is at a little over 9%

It is hard to believe that a Bravo prop has slip that low ... Hmmm

Anyway... I agree with Steve... demo a Hydromotive 30 P5x. Hydromotive has a demo program. Going up 1 inch in the hydromotives pitch will reduce rpm aproximately 150-170 rpm.

That is my favorite all-around prop.

I regularly spin a labbed 30 p5x at 5600 rpm to 92.8 mph which equals about 12.2% slip

Sounds like your boat is running pretty darn good.


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The 496 whipple moter I built for 22 Daytona made peak HP at 5500 RPM. That was with a Raylar blower cam. The stock cam would probably peak sooner. The 496's don't seem to like a lot of rpm like a 502 based engine does. I'd try to prop for no more than 5500 unless you have dyno numbers telling you otherwise.

Originally Posted by Steve Zuckerman
Raising your limiter should also give you another pound of boost, and horsepower comes with boost. With forged internals you should be OK @ 5800/5900. I wouldn't run it there all day, but for occaisional blasts, it's OK.
A 30" P5-X or Herring 5 blade (really are 30" pitch, and the extra blade will pull Rs down some too, with more efficient slip #s) would be a good test if you can find one, or a 32" B1 with cupping similar to your 30".
Sounds like you have your boat dialed in nicely. Congrats.
Steve
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