what would you buy???
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OK, IM thinking that blowers on my current 502s might be a bad idea....
I really like the sound of the Crockett Marine 502 upgrade, says it gets you 100 HP
Is there anyone out there who has done this or know anyone who has had it done? Im thinking I may go that way, 1/2 the money, over 525s. I know the 525s will be worth more in the long run, but i will have tons more in them from the start.
So next question is how does the group feel about "warmed over" 502s? will that send you screaming in the other direction??
That would worry me less than blowers.
Thanks for all the input
I really like the sound of the Crockett Marine 502 upgrade, says it gets you 100 HP
Is there anyone out there who has done this or know anyone who has had it done? Im thinking I may go that way, 1/2 the money, over 525s. I know the 525s will be worth more in the long run, but i will have tons more in them from the start.
So next question is how does the group feel about "warmed over" 502s? will that send you screaming in the other direction??
That would worry me less than blowers.
Thanks for all the input
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iF YOU ARE GOING TO MESS WITH THE BLACK MOTORS YOU WILL GET RESISTANCE ON RESALE..
[COLOR=Blue]If you are going to keep the boat for another 300 hours it doesn't much matter as by then you will have blow them up and will have to replace them.
My suggestion as a three time PQ owner is go blue, factory blue. If you like blowere look for a set og 575sc's They are rock solid and sound really sweet.
[COLOR=Blue]If you are going to keep the boat for another 300 hours it doesn't much matter as by then you will have blow them up and will have to replace them.
My suggestion as a three time PQ owner is go blue, factory blue. If you like blowere look for a set og 575sc's They are rock solid and sound really sweet.
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It probably depends on how long you want to keep the boat. I'd lean towards the 525s. My guess would be any upgrade you do to the 502s will cost you on resale. If you are selling within the next year or two, leave it alone. If you are keeping it longer, go 525s.
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powerquest 380,
I think you need to tell us more. What are you trying to accomplish? How long do you plan on keeping the boat? Is your haul stepped? I assume you want more speed.
I don't know why everyone is so down on blower motors considering the 575, 600, 850 & 1075 are all using blowers. From what I here whether you have 500, 525 blues or the bigger blower motors you are always rebuilding the motors every 200 - 250 hours regardless of choice. It's just the cost of going fast.
I believe your 502's are 415hp and the 525's 500hp. The 525's sound like you would be spending a lot of money to only get 85hp more per side. If it takes 17 - 20 hp per mile an hour I believe you will only see 5 - 8 mph increase. I am not sure if that same rule applies to twins. Since you boat in fresh water the closed cooling probably isn't as big of a necessity
Regardless, the 575's sound like a better choice than the 525's and are probably cheaper.
The Tyler Crockett option sounds like it's just slightly cheaper than building up the 502's with blowers.
If you plan on keeping the boat for a while and really want to go fast I would consider having your 502's professionally built with blowers and new engine internals to achieve the biggest bang for your buck. I believe I've seen packages claiming 200hp per side.
You probably need to get some professional opinions. You may want to contact www.bakerenginereeringinc.com out of Nunica, MI they race Cat Can Do, or Phil Hall at Coastal Performance Marine since it sounds like he is the one trying to purchase Powerquest. I have also heard of Millennium Marine in Muskegon. I think there is another Marine High Performance engine builder in Hudsonville or Jensen which I have seen at the boat show.
Good Luck with the project and if you ever need a crew member to share Poker Run expenses let me know as I would love to tag along.
I think you need to tell us more. What are you trying to accomplish? How long do you plan on keeping the boat? Is your haul stepped? I assume you want more speed.
I don't know why everyone is so down on blower motors considering the 575, 600, 850 & 1075 are all using blowers. From what I here whether you have 500, 525 blues or the bigger blower motors you are always rebuilding the motors every 200 - 250 hours regardless of choice. It's just the cost of going fast.
I believe your 502's are 415hp and the 525's 500hp. The 525's sound like you would be spending a lot of money to only get 85hp more per side. If it takes 17 - 20 hp per mile an hour I believe you will only see 5 - 8 mph increase. I am not sure if that same rule applies to twins. Since you boat in fresh water the closed cooling probably isn't as big of a necessity
Regardless, the 575's sound like a better choice than the 525's and are probably cheaper.
The Tyler Crockett option sounds like it's just slightly cheaper than building up the 502's with blowers.
If you plan on keeping the boat for a while and really want to go fast I would consider having your 502's professionally built with blowers and new engine internals to achieve the biggest bang for your buck. I believe I've seen packages claiming 200hp per side.
You probably need to get some professional opinions. You may want to contact www.bakerenginereeringinc.com out of Nunica, MI they race Cat Can Do, or Phil Hall at Coastal Performance Marine since it sounds like he is the one trying to purchase Powerquest. I have also heard of Millennium Marine in Muskegon. I think there is another Marine High Performance engine builder in Hudsonville or Jensen which I have seen at the boat show.
Good Luck with the project and if you ever need a crew member to share Poker Run expenses let me know as I would love to tag along.
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Re: what would you buy???
Milennyum Marine is in Harrison Twp, MI. As for Tyler Crockett, talk to Raypanic on this site, I believe Tyler helped build/dial in some blown 502 black motors in Ray's old 380.
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I agree with the Blue engines BUTTTTT you do not need to change drives enjoy the turnkey 525's and the regular Bravo combo. Just behave going up on plane and they will last. Remember our boats are very light compared to another make that would be a Bravo eater.
I'm at 550hp per side with 0 problems!
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Originally Posted by Scott
I agree with the Blue engines BUTTTTT you do not need to change drives enjoy the turnkey 525's and the regular Bravo combo. Just behave going up on plane and they will last. Remember our boats are very light compared to another make that would be a Bravo eater.
I'm at 550hp per side with 0 problems!
I'm at 550hp per side with 0 problems!
Stick with a naturally aspirated engine with reasonable power and enjoy years of trouble free boating.
If you want best combination of speed, reliability, and ride quality try merc.575 integrated transom extension xr drive package. Probably pick-up 7-15 mph and not over work anything.
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Originally Posted by powerquest 380
Rich, that would be great if you could get me the info on the builder. Do you have any idea how much he spent?
Thanks a ton
Thanks a ton
Rich.