25p vs 23p, same wot rpm?
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I tried a 26 Bravo once and could only run to 63mph at around 4400rpm and the chine walk was scary due to the stern lift from the 4 blade prop. I have run a best of 67mph with my 23 Mirage plus at 4800-5000rpm with 400 dyno proven HP. How much do the 24 Superboats weigh? I am moving again and weighed the boat and trailer a few days ago (I get paid to move anything the moving company won't move). The boat and trailer weighed 4580lbs full of gear, 1/4 tank of gas and Aluminum Load Rite trailer.
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I tried a 26 Bravo once and could only run to 63mph at around 4400rpm and the chine walk was scary due to the stern lift from the 4 blade prop. I have run a best of 67mph with my 23 Mirage plus at 4800-5000rpm with 400 dyno proven HP. How much do the 24 Superboats weigh? I am moving again and weighed the boat and trailer a few days ago (I get paid to move anything the moving company won't move). The boat and trailer weighed 4580lbs full of gear, 1/4 tank of gas and Aluminum Load Rite trailer.
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Load should be comparable. 2 people, same body of water, and around the same fuel. I may try the 25p again, but either prop, my slip % seems high.
I've never weighed the boat but I would certainly hate for it to be a tank.
Heaven forbid its a regular 7.4, it should still run faster speeds.
Edit: for the record, it's an 89 454MAG/bravo 1 drive combo. Research indicates 365hp from the factory, around 350hp at the prop and a 1.5 gear ratio.
I've never weighed the boat but I would certainly hate for it to be a tank.
Heaven forbid its a regular 7.4, it should still run faster speeds.
Edit: for the record, it's an 89 454MAG/bravo 1 drive combo. Research indicates 365hp from the factory, around 350hp at the prop and a 1.5 gear ratio.
Last edited by AWOL; 05-18-2015 at 10:22 PM.
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Both props appear in good shape. Mirage 23P + looks brand spanking new and has a new hub. Engine seems strong, no knocks, no ticking - but maybe should do a compression check to confirm again.
I may also open the gas tank to check out the pickup tube and make sure its not clogged or something.
Ive got some work ahead of me I guess.
I may also open the gas tank to check out the pickup tube and make sure its not clogged or something.
Ive got some work ahead of me I guess.
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Are you getting enough air to the motor.. Can you run with the hatch propped up 2 inches without fear of it blowing off. If so that will allow plenty of air to see if it is getting enough.
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I don't think air is the problem, but I can try that.
I'm not sure what the symptoms are of low fuel delivery on a boat, but from what I can tell, it seems fine. I read another thread of a python owner having issues with the fuel pickup, but he doesn't explain symptoms.
Edit: checked serial number : C659348. Comes up 454 mag for sure.
I'm not sure what the symptoms are of low fuel delivery on a boat, but from what I can tell, it seems fine. I read another thread of a python owner having issues with the fuel pickup, but he doesn't explain symptoms.
Edit: checked serial number : C659348. Comes up 454 mag for sure.
Last edited by AWOL; 05-19-2015 at 05:53 PM.
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Had it out today again and gave it some good runs.
I had 3 others in the boat and 3/4 tank and ran 57 mph @ 4500 rpm.
Slip calculates around 13% (improvement) but still doesn't want to get over 4500 rpm. I did end up cleaning some junk from my fuel pickup tube and that may have resulted in the 4mph increase.
Would a lighter load = higher rpm? Or should I look to try just a plain Jane 23p Mirage to get my rpm up
I had 3 others in the boat and 3/4 tank and ran 57 mph @ 4500 rpm.
Slip calculates around 13% (improvement) but still doesn't want to get over 4500 rpm. I did end up cleaning some junk from my fuel pickup tube and that may have resulted in the 4mph increase.
Would a lighter load = higher rpm? Or should I look to try just a plain Jane 23p Mirage to get my rpm up
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Update part 2 in case anyone else has these issues.
Was out by myself today for a quick jaunt.
With a little more than half a tank, I had her full tilt, trimmed up and saw 4700 or so rpm. GPS on my phone (same app Ive been using) showed 60.9 mph. It started to chine walk a little, and backed off.
Either cleaning out my fuel pickup tube, or the lighter load, Im seeing some improvements and Im pretty pleased. Slip is right around 10% so I can't complain. With a lighter load, maybe I can get to 4800-4900 and a few more mph.
Was out by myself today for a quick jaunt.
With a little more than half a tank, I had her full tilt, trimmed up and saw 4700 or so rpm. GPS on my phone (same app Ive been using) showed 60.9 mph. It started to chine walk a little, and backed off.
Either cleaning out my fuel pickup tube, or the lighter load, Im seeing some improvements and Im pretty pleased. Slip is right around 10% so I can't complain. With a lighter load, maybe I can get to 4800-4900 and a few more mph.
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Update part 3:
Still running under 5k rpm, but now in the 4800-4900 range. Being a novice and hauling this speed, Im more focused on not dying.
Life is good, and getting closer to my 65 goal.
Still running under 5k rpm, but now in the 4800-4900 range. Being a novice and hauling this speed, Im more focused on not dying.
Life is good, and getting closer to my 65 goal.