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Thanks for the input. I think that the Scarab Excels are a newer and lighter model than the one I am looking at. The early ones, like the '86 that I am looking at were hevier, had more freeboard and a cuddy, the later ones, ( in the 90's) shortened the freeboard and lengthend the bow dumped the cuddy, and made them faster and lighter. I think. By this time tomorrow I may,or may not be a Scarab owner. Keeping my fingers crossed. Greg
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