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Wasn't really trying to find fault. Just find it odd that this happens and most people are ignorant about it. I know a pintle can handle big weight and thought to myself why don't the trailer manufacture put them on these big boat trailers. So one question: How does a pintle get used in the hitch? The ones I have seen have a standard 2" square stock that goes into the hitch. Now like I said before the highest rated hitch I have found is the Putnam 16K. You mentioned have one built for the truck. Is that a standard practice on how to use a pintle with big weight? Also how would you go about a tow rating on one that was made? Not trying to come off the wrong way just trying to learn and others reading this may find it helpful too.
The simplest way is to take your truck to a truck body company. Most sell other people's bodies and do the fabrication as needed. Others do theirs from scratch. To be blunt, it's Amish Engineering. They make this stuff so damn big and heavy, there's no possibility of it failing. You can use a pintle in a receiver but you're still limited by the hitch. Take a look sometime at the setups they use on tandem trailer rigs. How the pintle is mounted to the frame. That's what you need for pulling big weight.
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The problem is that you need a medium or heavy duty to pull over 16K with a pintle. Even the f450 (which is marketed as a medium but really isn't) is limited to 16K standard towing. It only goes up to 24K with gooseneck or fifth wheel. It is by far the highest rated "1 ton" on the market and is matched with the appropriate receiver if used with a WD setup. I have changed my trailer setup to be legal and it tows very well. Part of the reason is the integrated trailer brake, commercial tires and a very good trailer. I admit I have towed it with the WD system I used to use when I towed with a Class 8 truck and it towed well, but I wouldn't do it on public roads because it simply isn't legal, with all the liability issues beaten to death on all the preceding threads.
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Wasn't really trying to find fault. Just find it odd that this happens and most people are ignorant about it. I know a pintle can handle big weight and thought to myself why don't the trailer manufacture put them on these big boat trailers. So one question: How does a pintle get used in the hitch? The ones I have seen have a standard 2" square stock that goes into the hitch. Now like I said before the highest rated hitch I have found is the Putnam 16K. You mentioned have one built for the truck. Is that a standard practice on how to use a pintle with big weight? Also how would you go about a tow rating on one that was made? Not trying to come off the wrong way just trying to learn and others reading this may find it helpful too.
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ok as far as i no the truck rating is not the sam as the hitch if the trailer is 10,000 then you need a hitch ratted 10,000 the truck GVW on the tag could be 9,000 so add 9,000 and 10,000 for the trailer your good for a gross load of 19,000 so again as long as your combined is less than 26,000 no CDL over 26 you need a CDL. So if the truck waighs 7000 the trailer say 3000 plus the load 10000 your at 20,000 you need a heaver truck thats good for 10,000 GVW so your not over your combined gross weight
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Those ratings are BS, the salesmen told me he knows a guy that pulls twice what those ratings say because he has airbags with a chip/tuner and is extra careful.
I actually looked up my truck to see if the 12K I thought it could pull conventionally was correct and it was.
I actually looked up my truck to see if the 12K I thought it could pull conventionally was correct and it was.
OK, the key phrase here was using air bags, a tuner and be extra careful??? These all sound like compensations for a truck that wasn't meant for the job in the first place. Would you want to pull a $300,000 boat down the road trying to be exxxxtra careful, so nothing bad happens...sounds like a pretty foolish risk with your investment and a salesman that was try'n to sell a lesser truck. IMO
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