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Old 05-12-2011, 01:01 PM
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Taking on a new customer in the panhandle of oklahoma that has had a very unique unloading preference for liquid products..

Basically 3 tanks sitting on a flatbed gooseneck. No straight Trucks, no Semi's..

We would load with product, deliver the trailer and then use the 4wheel drive truck to offload the product into a bed tank and down to some oil wells.. Its a pretty unique situation and neither of my freightliners will fit the bill..

Im seeing the F550 being the best choice so far, but Im not sure it could legally do the job..

Weight of the product in 3 tanks would be over 22,000# plus tanks, equipment and trailer..

I cant seem to find the towing capacity of the F550, just the 450..

Is this going to be a possibility or do I need to start looking in the big truck class?
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An F-550 can tow 25,500 - 26,500 (5th wheel) depending on cab and options.

You have to go to the commercial section:
http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...ations/towing/
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Originally Posted by CigDaze
An F-550 can tow 25,500 - 26,500 (5th wheel) depending on cab and options.

You have to go to the commercial section:
http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...ations/towing/
Aha, I missed that page.. It shows a reg cab 4x4 diesel 550 can tow 26,200.. That truck better weigh under 7k to come in under 33,000#GCWR to be a class 5 truck.. Thats really pushin it with fuel, driver and a steel flatbed.. But it doesnt take it out of the running, thats good to hear..

I was looking here: http://www.commtruck.ford.com/bp.html?modelYearId=11693 and it was showing MAX was 16k towing.
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i would say at a minimum a f-650 on the plus side you will get the cummins isb engine instead of the ih/ford engine..

some food for thought..https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...d_Workbook.pdf

page 7 gives you class and true weights.

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The problem with going to a Class 6 truck is that I lose 4x4 which is one of the key elements to the situation.. a 4x4 650 with the cummins gets 5mpg loaded. And the GCWR between a 550 and a 650 is the same, if Im reading that correctly, 33k..

If you got to an airbrake 2wd 750, then you can get 33k+ but I have to stay under 33k and have 4wd.
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tulsa truck in oklahoma did a 4x4 conversion on my pete 26.000 gvw
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
tulsa truck in oklahoma did a 4x4 conversion on my pete 26.000 gvw
Talk about overkill. I LOVE IT!!!!!
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The problem with going to a Class 6 truck is that I lose 4x4 which is one of the key elements to the situation.. a 4x4 650 with the cummins gets 5mpg loaded. And the GCWR between a 550 and a 650 is the same, if Im reading that correctly, 33k..

If you got to an airbrake 2wd 750, then you can get 33k+ but I have to stay under 33k and have 4wd.
its hard to believe that f650 gets 5 mpg,,we have a 04 monoco diesel pusher with a 5,9 isb and and weighs around 24k,average 9-10 mpg..

This guy here claims he gets 12-15 mpg,dont know if its fwd tho..

http://www.projo.com/projocars/conte...3.26267dc.html
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We have an m2 with the MBZ in it and a 26' bed..It gets 8.8 on a good day.. When you add the rolling resistance of two more sets of duals and being over 25k in cargo, I think 6-7 would be appropriate with a 4wd.. I just spoke with the guy about the deal and his concern with requiring four wheel drive is the last two years weve had unreal blizzards here and the semis cant get through the pasture roads to the wellsites.. But Im thinking that even with 4wd, that much weight and a trailer, itd still be hopeless.. I mentioned maybe using a tractor to pull the trailer to the sites if the snow got bad..

Id prefer a 2wd, less moving parts, cheaper insurance, better fuel economy and higher cvwr..
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Originally Posted by weldcrane
tulsa truck in oklahoma did a 4x4 conversion on my pete 26.000 gvw
When too much is JUST enough!

Thats one sexy rig though! What mileage do you get out of it?!
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