mpally

It doesn't matter if people keep their vehicles over 100,000 miles these days or not. Bottom line is if you spend this kind of money on a vehicle, it should last more than 100,000 miles with normal driving conditions and normal maintianence. I'll use the example of our Suburban. After spending the amount of money we did on the Suburban, we shouldn't have to put new rings and pistons in it at 50,000 miles. It doesn't matter if we plan on keeping it over 100,000 miles or not. We're spending a lot of money for your product, at least make sure it's a decent product.

mpally

You're contradicting yourself. First you say who keeps their vehicles over 100,000 miles these days and then you say you don't disagree that people of keeping their vehicles for closer to 10 years. I'm confused.

mpally

I would consider replacement of the turbos as a major repair. That's is the one item I had in mind when posing the question.

Uncle Dave

The newer pressurized bearing/ water cooled turbos have an extremely long life compared to older ones.

Pretty much the whole of the EB rotating assembly is forged with 6 bolt/ side bolted mains.

The thing only used 1 tooth out of the range of available teeth of timing chain tightening over the whole Ford endurance test.

Direct injection could get hinkey but diesels have been solid in this area quite a while.


UD

ziemer

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I have yet to see or get a clear answer on the difference between the two tow packages other than the EB Controller and the Big Mirrors.

Uncle Dave

Copied from a ford forum.

1. Higher rated trailer hitch
2. Rear ride height is 1 mm higher (Different spring rate? I'm not sure of the reason)
3. 20:1 steering ratio, trucks without this package get a 17:1 ratio
4. Integrated Trailer-Brake Controller (can be added to any F-150 with trailer tow package)

More rows of radiator oil cooler and trans cooler- as well.

UD

marylandmark

More than likely I interpreted the information I told told incorrectly. Regardless, those are much better numbers than I was told. $3K is a heck of a lot easier to swallow than $8k (using high side of both our numbers).

Only $6900 for a new Ecoboost engine, much less than the $12K-$14K I was told as well. Again, maybe that price included labor and I misinterpreted the information as it was given to me.

soldier4402

I 100% agree in my mind a vehicle should last 150k assuming proper maint and care. But in the end its a machine and no machine has a 0 probability of defect or will not fail in its life time. Specially with a vehicle when you add different drivers, conditions such as extreme temps and salt, and people towing, all varibles that can decrease the life expectantcy of a vehicle. None the less if I spend 50k the dang thing better work for a while. But manufactures do offer 60-100k warranties that last over 5 years. I do not know after 5 years how much a manufacture can be responsible for something that really gets used every day. But I also had a silverado brand new with 14k, the thing was better off not having windows because it leaked so much, interior panels rattled and the engine dont matter what did got about 14mpg. Chevy lost my truck business for now not because they have chitty products, I was convinced it was just one out of 1000 thing, but their lack of correcting the issue is what lost me.


But at 50k miles wasnt that under warranty.?

soldier4402

uncle dave spelled it out pretty well, even though those things he listed might make you wonder how it does that, because mirrors dont add weight. But from what I gather the rear bumper is what adds the weight, really where the receiver connects to is stronger.

soldier4402

Sorry, if you read what I said, im not argueing the studies, but what I am saying is I wonder what sample size they used? As I type this im looking outside at the office and I would have to say the average vehicle is probably no older then 5-6 years as I said. Again a small sample size, but drive down the road once and you do not have a lot of 10 year old bombers our there. Thats why I wonder if they took old people and young people in this study as it may affect the overall avearge.