2 new sets of kodiak brakes not enough?
02-06-2013, 07:54 AM
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When the shop put on the new master cylinder they probably forgot to remove the orifice in the MC that is required for drum brakes. Not needed for disc brakes. A few years ago I put Kodiak brakes on my trailer, it was money well spent. I think so they have saved me from a crash at least two times-both deer running out in the road.
02-06-2013, 07:57 PM
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unplug the trailer light plug and see if you can back up.if you can wyyle in reverse still set the emergrncy brake and put the vehicle in park..go back and look at where the ball part of the acuator is,if it looks to be buried inth the unit them you have air in the system,if not then they either put a drum brake acuator on it or the reverse lock out solenoid is blocking the fluid from going past it..
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02-06-2013, 08:00 PM
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I am sorry I have no idea of what an EOH system is, brakes are disc not drum on 2 axles.They did not give me any alternative option really.
02-06-2013, 08:03 PM
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You have a 272? I have a 29 F on a tandem with all elect brakes on both 6 lug 5200 lb axles. I can stop almost as hard as the truck by itself. It will really haul you down. Im super happy with it. You have brakes on two 5 lug 3500lb axles????? I know its not apples to apples but with my old trailer I completely replaced all four drum brakes on the surge 3500lb axles and I was not happy with the braking. It worked ok but that was it. Have you ever weighed the boat and trailer?
My boat/trailer/fuel/gear weighs 9K. So with brakes on 2 5200lb axles Im covered with 10,400lbs worth of brake. If you only have brakes on two 3500lb axles then you have 7000lb worth of braking. Your boat/trailer/gear may weigh 8 or 8200lbs. You need to weigh it. Its easy just take the truck and the trailer through the scale then pull over in the parking lot, disconnect the boat and go through again with just the truck, thats what I did you can do it in 20 min. I was surprised on how much it weighed.
My boat/trailer/fuel/gear weighs 9K. So with brakes on 2 5200lb axles Im covered with 10,400lbs worth of brake. If you only have brakes on two 3500lb axles then you have 7000lb worth of braking. Your boat/trailer/gear may weigh 8 or 8200lbs. You need to weigh it. Its easy just take the truck and the trailer through the scale then pull over in the parking lot, disconnect the boat and go through again with just the truck, thats what I did you can do it in 20 min. I was surprised on how much it weighed.
I will also go by a public scale and weigh both to see what I get.
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02-06-2013, 08:06 PM
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EOH= Electric over Hydraulic. Maybe your controller is not working or needs to be set correctly.
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02-06-2013, 08:40 PM
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Here is the shop
http://www.seatechtrailers.com
Let you know how reputable they are once I show up with the problem.
02-06-2013, 09:00 PM
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When the shop put on the new master cylinder they probably forgot to remove the orifice in the MC that is required for drum brakes. Not needed for disc brakes. A few years ago I put Kodiak brakes on my trailer, it was money well spent. I think so they have saved me from a crash at least two times-both deer running out in the road.
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So you did not convert to EOH? Just upgraded to discs and modified the master in the surge coupler?
Yep. You have to remove the check valve in the m/c that drum brakes need. (Not removing that feature is what caused mrfixxall's brakes to burn up.) The guys at Eastern Marine will explain how to do that. Drum brakes also require an inline fitting with a very small orifice (.016") to keep them from applying too quickly. This is usually a brass fitting, and can easily be drilled out to 1/16" or so for the disc brake application.
http://www.championtrailers.com/remo...dual_valve.htm
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02-06-2013, 09:15 PM
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Diego...what size master cylinder do you have? Make sure it matches the brakes.
Mine operates as if the boat is not pushing my Escalade at all...in fact the whole rig feels as though it's stopping faster. I went with the DeeMaxx System with two axles and a 12000# Master Cylinder. It really pulls down fast. Also make sure you have enough tongue weight...that can make a difference.
http://www.deemaxxcomponents.com/
My biggest test was on i-95 running about 65 and had a guy suddenly stop in front of me for no reason. I hit the brakes and stopped very quickly from 65...scared the crap out of me but now I know how good the system works.
Call me tomorrow.
Mine operates as if the boat is not pushing my Escalade at all...in fact the whole rig feels as though it's stopping faster. I went with the DeeMaxx System with two axles and a 12000# Master Cylinder. It really pulls down fast. Also make sure you have enough tongue weight...that can make a difference.
http://www.deemaxxcomponents.com/
My biggest test was on i-95 running about 65 and had a guy suddenly stop in front of me for no reason. I hit the brakes and stopped very quickly from 65...scared the crap out of me but now I know how good the system works.
Call me tomorrow.
The master cylinder is a Titan 12000 lbs , and he told me when I back up it will not activate the brakes.
02-06-2013, 11:53 PM
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Got you now, thanks , I have Mack at Doller Offshore replacing manifolds and risers,as soon as he is done, I will be running back to the trailer shop,
Here is the shop
http://www.seatechtrailers.com
Let you know how reputable they are once I show up with the problem.
Here is the shop
http://www.seatechtrailers.com
Let you know how reputable they are once I show up with the problem.
