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05-26-2009, 10:31 PM
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Location: LAMARQUE TX
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1999 velocity 260
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Bad Memorial day
Here are some pics from about 45 minuets after my boat broke down and some from this afternoon after I pulled the heads off. The motor is a mercury racing 500 bulldog and I was wondering where the best place to get a new block would be I am also having some trouble finding out if the block is a 502 or a 454 talldeck any help would be great
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05-26-2009, 10:33 PM
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notd1
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30' Velocity w/750's , 41' Velocity w/900's , 42' Fountain w/900's , 42' MTI
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I thought the bulldog 500 hp was 540ci
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05-26-2009, 10:38 PM
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that's right... HP 500 = 502 c.i. at 470 hp
Bulldog are 540 c.i rated also 470 hp or 500 hp I can't recall
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05-26-2009, 10:58 PM
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Front Of Block
I dont know if you can tell from this pic if not let me know and I will get some more tommarrow also ran the number stamped on the block and it says it is a 454t block
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05-27-2009, 06:25 AM
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Crazy Energy
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You can quickly identify it at the upper waterpump bolts. On a shorty, the distance from the upper waterpump bolt to the deck of the cylinders will by ~0.200", and the tall deck is ~0.600", The difference is 0.400"
The tall motors have longer rods, which produce more torque - not noted for revs. Pushrods are also longer.
I don't think the 454 was ever offered in a tall deck - the 366 and the 427 were offered both ways, but I think the 454 and all later Mark IV blocks are all short deck, but not sure.
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05-27-2009, 12:03 PM
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I have a friend with 2 502 bowtie tall deck blocks if that helps you out. If you need them shoot me a pm.
Frank
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05-27-2009, 12:34 PM
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I have some stuff coming off the dyno next week that you might be interested in that would be turn key, and priced right. I am up in Conroe. Engines are down at Owens right now. PM me if you are interested. I can tell from the pics that your rigging would work fine on them.
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05-27-2009, 12:50 PM
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Dude, talk to a machine shop. They may be able to sleeve that block.... save you about $2500.
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05-27-2009, 01:44 PM
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Sorry about your engine.
I would not suggest spending the $$ for another tall deck 454 block. You can likely use your stroker crank in a short deck 454 or 502 block with the right combo of rods and pistons.
If not, I'd suggest buying an assembled 502 shortblock and use your heads.
You will need a new intake with a short deck block but that can be had for under $200.
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05-27-2009, 02:16 PM
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I feel your pain!! I trashed a motor last month!!
Like mentioned above, if the rest of the block checks out ok, you can have it sleeved. If it is done right, it will last!!!!
Good luck!!
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