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tomcei 02-02-2024 04:49 PM

Got my lights working on the dash..
.. I have the interior sorted out but need to build a new back seat.. it was a total redo.. I built all the frame work and worked with a local company called "U-vision it" they do killer work and tolerated all my details.. .. turned out nice
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5342c6e713.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bf9ae43a74.jpg
Contemplating how this rear seat is going to unfold
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cff9e41f77.jpg
New base with storage..seat bottom and back...just need to tweak the angles.. remember this was a two seater before
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...722eb838a7.jpg
Playi g with seat foam and seat height
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...915a55543f.jpg
Once all frame work is at the uphol shop it must be reassembled on the bench to recreate the actuall boat angles
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0561b265c8.jpg
Funky corners will become storage for a passenger

tomcei 02-02-2024 05:01 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e5b45ec991.jpg
Picking it up from the shop
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Everything fit nice a tight..
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d7898befe8.jpg
Slight bolster action to seperate the seats ..the outsdie seats have it a bit higher to assist with the grab handles..elbow rest if you will..
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...86cdc91ed6.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cf7a8abb9c.jpg
Stash pocket worked out good for a phone or water bottle...not much else i could do with it.

F-2 Speedy 02-02-2024 05:04 PM

nice work

frickstyle 02-03-2024 08:15 AM

One of the coolest threads on OSO - love the project builds. Keep posting up pics!

Looking really good!

Craney 02-03-2024 08:56 AM

Wow another great project with outstanding results.How long have you been working on this one?

tomcei 02-03-2024 11:03 AM

Thanks Guys, that means a lot coming from you dudes! I've been chipping away since 2018 very slow start after the Pantera left. Still working on a house remodel at some level. Of course my better half feels that is more important. While it is, just not near as fun. I have had numerous set backs along the way. Covid damn near killed my business so there was a while I thought I might have to live in a tent... kidding but not really... I bought some used engines that turned out to be all used up and basically junk as far as I was concerned. My boat work environment has been less than desirable and I'm just not as fast as I used to be. In all honesty the last two yrs I've been pretty hard at it. I was supper lucky to get some of the last dart ultra tall blocks from the factory at the time. I also heard the foundry permanently shut down as well. Manufacturing in the states just isn't what is was... Seemed like anything I needed was on back order. Over a 1.5yrs to build the engines and fab the intakes. As I look back it seems nuts to me to work this long on a boat project but I keep the perspective that I am doing it because its the creative hands on and the thrill of dry pipes that keeps me going. At some level I need a project because it's how I'm wired. I'll post some engine stuff next

tomcei 02-03-2024 01:54 PM

Ok. On to some horse pwr. Notched the block for clearances if course. Fab up oil splash guard. Jezel belt drive. Custom sheet metal intake. Couldnt order anything to fit anyway so pretty much would have to fab something to fit 11.2 deck ( I think that's what it is , cant remember). Anyway, seemed like everything was a custom project.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e14cd1664f.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bedfe82cc9.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...57f3a39ece.jpg
Water neck thermo needed clearance. Another fab job.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...58baf0afd3.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8c28e004ef.jpg
Intake needed some tweaks to fit correctly afer weld up.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d58babcb94.jpg
Splash guard had to be made to fit
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...dccc37d302.jpg
Slugs and rods getting ready
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8acd52afb9.jpg
It was Hard to get these pans too

tomcei 02-03-2024 02:02 PM

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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...56b739dcfd.jpg

tomcei 02-03-2024 02:05 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...50cb2dcace.jpg
Painted them BMW space gray to match my color pallet and interior best i could.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...015846e7c1.jpg
Almost ready
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Times two
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1971d4afdb.jpg
Ready for pick up

F-2 Speedy 02-03-2024 02:12 PM

Do those 11.2 blocks have a raised cam tunnel ? nice work

tomcei 02-03-2024 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4890038)
Do those 11.2 blocks have a raised cam tunnel ? nice work

Yes the cam is raised but i couldn't tell you the specs. Make no mistake about it. I didn't do the engine work. I'm pretty handy but i left that to the professionals. I used Grimes Machine for all the engine work. Those guys have been around a long long time and treat me like family. Been working with them for over 20 yrs off and on. Unreal wealth of knowledge in Marine and drag racing and not afraid to think outside the box on this job. They have helped me fab up all kinds of weird stuff to make this work. I believe other shops would have told me to hit the road went i walk in the door and ask to have some crazy stuff welded up.

I ended up using cerakote on the intakes and valve covers to keep a pure aluminum look to them. Some of you maybe familiar with the coating. It is used on guns quite a bit.

Now i have a ton of rigging to do. Nothing is the same so all the plumbing oil, water, coolers and electrical will completely be reconfigured. This took some time because i didn't want it to look crazy. Much to try and clean up and tuck away to keep as clean a look as possible.

Twin O/B Sonic 02-04-2024 06:40 AM

Baddd Assss!

offshoredrillin 02-04-2024 07:04 AM

progress looks awesome, I was just talking to Mark the other day about this and building a larger sit down boat than his 30...

tomcei 02-05-2024 05:32 AM

Gotum dropped in.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ec68041120.jpg
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tomcei 02-05-2024 06:02 AM

Just prior to dropping them in I rewired all the battery lines and replace the fuel hoses. Added a battery switch and co figured to use eather battery of each mtr.. not sure why it wasn't done that way.....
had to make some stainless tube couplers for the water lines to make some tigh turns. One funky one through the stringer. . Also finished the fuel lines to the carbs.

tomcei 02-05-2024 06:07 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6952e0abbe.jpg
New switches and rewire
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Contemplating oil line routes
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Coolers.

Tiki Joe 02-05-2024 09:09 AM

Awesome work!...I'm always curious when I see these extensive projects....are you in the marine business or a mechanic buy trade? The guy in the Northeast with the awesome turbine Skater jokes that he's a car salesman with a nice tool set...lol!

hogie roll 02-05-2024 10:26 AM

Lovin this build. Exactly the kind of hot rod I want.

What are the heads and cam specs?

tomcei 02-05-2024 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Tiki Joe (Post 4890146)
Awesome work!...I'm always curious when I see these extensive projects....are you in the marine business or a mechanic buy trade? The guy in the Northeast with the awesome turbine Skater jokes that he's a car salesman with a nice tool set...lol!

I've been in field Services most my life. Just a tech guy and a gear head hot rod. Love electro-menhanical stuff.

tomcei 02-05-2024 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4890152)
Lovin this build. Exactly the kind of hot rod I want.

What are the heads and cam specs?

CNC Dart but i don't recall runners or the cams specs.currenntly

cheech 02-05-2024 03:39 PM

Have the engines been dynoed?

Twin O/B Sonic 02-05-2024 07:41 PM

Ports in intake and heads appear huge to me but in this small/light of a boat….., let er eat!

tomcei 02-06-2024 05:34 AM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...456fab818.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...eccab4e4ac.jpg
Going with a thermo and bypass
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9790e71b3e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...67f6533414.jpg

tomcei 02-06-2024 05:47 AM

Ok. So I have most of the dressing out completed on the engines. Still tons to do.. need new stainless marine pipe and other odds and ends. I have spared you some of how the sausage is made pics .. will need to do exhaust port transom work.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2d816d8334.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8d9d9dfb71.jpg


tomcei 02-06-2024 06:03 AM

I soldered and heat shrank everything. God bless the snap-on butane iron. I giggle to myself every time i use it.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ef76fce613.jpg
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Gary C 02-07-2024 05:51 AM

One word from me....incredible!

snapmorgan 02-07-2024 08:02 AM

I could certainly be wrong, but I would think that at 28 deg total timing these engines are probably down 50 hp and I would be concerned with tuliping the exhaust valves or torching the seats. I wonder if the dyno operator ran them with more timing and they just didn't perform there. I know that some combos are sensitive to timing changes and some just don't care. It would be interesting to know.

tomcei 02-07-2024 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4890323)
I could certainly be wrong, but I would think that at 28 deg total timing these engines are probably down 50 hp and I would be concerned with tuliping the exhaust valves or torching the seats. I wonder if the dyno operator ran them with more timing and they just didn't perform there. I know that some combos are sensitive to timing changes and some just don't care. It would be interesting to know.

they are definitely detuned and run on 89. exhaust temps were good.

TeamSaris 02-08-2024 08:27 AM

EPIC project! Nothing cooler than 1 of a kind rigs.

tomcei 02-10-2024 12:09 PM

I appreciate all the feed back. I enjoy looking at these type project myself. I wish more people out there were into doing the same thing but the turn key new boat thing with all the goodies is hard to beat.( expensive tho)
Seems like there use to be a lot more of the hot rodder rebuilds a decade ago. I guess the demographic is changing and i'm just an old schooler..lol

Now that the engines are in and most of the bilge rigging is sorted out i needed to have Stainless Marine make a new pipe for the forward engine. It was quite the chore explaining to someone on paper/ email and the phone what i needed to some pretty darn close tolerances. Last thing i wanted was "buck tooth" looking exhaust pipes hanging out the back. Had to make sure the length and height worked out. Didn't want someone at the dock calling me out. :cool: I know this is obvious to you guys but i though you might want to see what i went through to get it done. It may help someone else down the road. Pics to follow....

tomcei 02-10-2024 12:32 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...57a2f4cd79.jpg
Overall situation
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b3d4c484fb.jpg
This aint a straight shot. Have to make sure i put it between the carb and valve cover.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...61ffba5ba0.jpg
Used one of the short pipes to reference measurements

tomcei 02-10-2024 12:39 PM

I lifted another short pipe and spaced it up over the valve cover to mock it up and check for clearances. I had to also keep the pipe the exact same over all length as the original to keep everything matching on length. Drew up some diagrams to email Stainless and keep it straight in my head as I went through it all.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3e5538af38.jpg
Now i have something to work from
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d9be80b719.jpg
Im not an artist so cut me some slack

tomcei 02-10-2024 12:49 PM

At this point I needed a top dead center reference. This took two trips to Stainless and we did this in sections to make sure I had exactly what I wanted.. I must say Letty at Stainless was a total sweet heart to work with.. she and the team met with me on the phone and the welder just to be sure we were all on the same page.. they worked with me on each of my steps..
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0b43ce969d.jpg
Setting the height to then double down on tdc
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...588f288dd6.jpg
This tdc will allow me to rotate the pipe to achieve the proper height. Then we can weld up the rest of the pipe. The welder had to mount this on his table and use the same reference point and weld level from that point on.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...64e4e9495f.jpg

tomcei 02-10-2024 12:58 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6c96f2d90f.jpg
The centerline is how i determined the offset distance for the next piece referencing the drawing. Again some of my pics are out of sequence
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6e7bccef51.jpg
Confirmation on length as i plot the next weld joint
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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c762833c99.jpg
Referencing a bleed hold on another pipe so the new pipe bleed would be in the same spot
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fa899bf5e3.jpg
Straight edge across the other pipes to confirm length sticking out

tomcei 02-10-2024 01:15 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e0dfe88b80.jpg
Perfect fit
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...632cf0b543.jpg
Gaps are good..yea i know the banana yellow lift mtr is ugly..lol
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac78c157c0.jpg

Craney 02-10-2024 02:30 PM

WOW looks Beautiful. Did you ever think about 2 into 1 exhaust or would that hurt performance.

Twin O/B Sonic 02-10-2024 04:42 PM

Bad ass!

tomcei 02-11-2024 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4890539)
WOW looks Beautiful. Did you ever think about 2 into 1 exhaust or would that hurt performance.

Not sure about performance but I only needed one pipe so this was my easiest and cheapest route, personally I'm not a big fan of two into one.

Knot 4 Me 02-14-2024 11:39 AM

Dude... Wow!!!

tomcei 02-16-2024 04:35 PM

Now that the pipes are on I can cut some templates and get the glass work done on the transom around the holes. Obviously the holes were opened "up" and "out" with the taller block. Here we go again with debris in my clean bilge and then I'll have another mess to clean up. It is brutal doing things in random order and creating extra work but what are you going do.....
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...419069465d.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f136c4b77f.jpg
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