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ACTIVESHACK 10-26-2007 11:08 PM

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You can have it both ways :D

crb76 10-26-2007 11:17 PM

I saw the green 700SCI boat at the factory today. The photos do not do it justice by a long shot. I mean that. It could quite possibly be one of the finest AT's ever built. It should also run well since the kid is going with a cabin with little to no amenities. The engine compartment is sick with diamond plate Pirelli. It also has a diamond plate Pirelli floor in the cockpit.

chuckbeecher 10-27-2007 05:28 PM

Saw the green boat the other day and Clark is right.
I was very surprised at the colors in person compared to the photos.
And when that boat gets out in the sunlight just WATCH OUT!!!

spilman 10-27-2007 05:39 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking,the sunlight shimmering off those deep greens...oh yeah,..that will look incredible.

cosmic12 10-27-2007 05:45 PM

When I was there look'n at it I was speachless, walked out shak'n my head saying to myself WOW WOW WOW. It really is going to be a Beast of Beauty.

crb76 10-28-2007 11:00 AM

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Color of Money

crb76 10-28-2007 11:06 AM

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Emerald not Black!!!

camptappakeg69 10-28-2007 12:06 PM

Damn that is one sweet lookin ride!!!!!!!


Might think I'm crazy but maybe a touch of orange between the green and black would kick it up. But I am kinda messed up:cool-smiley-027:

ACTIVESHACK 10-28-2007 12:10 PM

I'm anxious to see it this winter :cool:

Macklin 10-28-2007 03:33 PM

WOW! That's a head turner for sure!!

Pat, glad to see you are now stopping the paint well above the bottom edge of the hull. Makes for a much cleaner line. And IF you ever happen to have your boat lifted....the straps won't muck up the paint.

chuckbeecher 10-28-2007 07:46 PM

It had to be brought to my attention but has any one noticed that "baby" size step?
Interesting concept..
so if you built it with a pair of 1075s or larger would it completely disappear?

slboatdrinks 10-28-2007 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 2320349)
It had to be brought to my attention but has any one noticed that "baby" size step?
Interesting concept..
so if you built it with a pair of 1075s or larger would it completely disappear?

You're saying the size of the step on the hull is smaller than norm?

cosmic12 10-28-2007 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 2320349)
It had to be brought to my attention but has any one noticed that "baby" size step?
Interesting concept..
so if you built it with a pair of 1075s or larger would it completely disappear?

HUH???????? Please explain

Sydwayz 10-28-2007 10:57 PM

As for the step...

Harry and Pat designed the step of the AT AVH hull VERY specifically. The trailing edge of the step, the bottom edge of the transom and the propshaft are aligned on the same plane. (Per the original design with transom mounted Bravo1s with traditional 4 Blade B1 props.)

With the NXT drive mounted further back than the traditional Bravo transom mount, this adjusts things. Hence, Harry and Pat made some adjustments. Also, with the gentle transition to 5 and 6 blade props that like "more" or "less" water, X-dimension is adjusted from time to time; depending on the purpose for the boat.

ActiveThunder 10-29-2007 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 2320349)
It had to be brought to my attention but has any one noticed that "baby" size step?
Interesting concept..
so if you built it with a pair of 1075s or larger would it completely disappear?

It's only .875 shorter. Not quite a baby-step.

chuckbeecher 10-29-2007 06:55 PM

When I looked at the pictures Clark posted it looked (maybe because of the paint scheme and the name layout) looked like it was 2-3 inches short. So .875 makes it a 1 in. shorter?. Was told as these 37s with this new awsome hp and the speeds were taking these boats into a new realm that they had never seen before that "as speed increases the step decreases". Which is what you (Pat) are saying. It just looked quiet smaller overall to me.
But all that..if you went with some really radical power and pushed the speed way beyond the 105 area would it get even smaller or at a certian point would some form of a second need to be added. Every boat has a point that you run out of hull for certian power or speed. Many cases you need a larger hull.
Our fishboat was originally designed with a single step. But with newer outboard power they found they needed to add a shallow second step to increase the speed/stability..in some cases loosen the aft end while stabilizing the roll.
I would love to set with Harry and have him explain it.

boatfreak 10-29-2007 07:47 PM

This may be a dumb question but how do you change the step height using the same mold.

slboatdrinks 10-29-2007 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 2321468)
This may be a dumb question but how do you change the step height using the same mold.

Playdo :D

Sydwayz 10-29-2007 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 2321473)
Playdo :D

Pat had a pallet of the stuff on the dock last time I was there. There was also a pallet of KY too, but he said it was some top secret thing. I just don't get it. :hitfan: :D

ActiveThunder 10-29-2007 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 2321468)
This may be a dumb question but how do you change the step height using the same mold.

When I built the molds for the 37 it was a Vee.

The step is an insert in the mold so we can change it or even build a V if you want one!

cosmic12 10-29-2007 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2321510)
When I built the molds for the 37 it was a Vee.

The step is an insert in the mold so we can change it or even build a V if you want one!

I figured something like that, nice to know that a V is still doable:cool:

crb76 10-29-2007 10:47 PM

That is why AT is one of the only true custom boats. Pick the step you want or none at all! It is quite impressive and an excellent way to do it because you can make adjustment based on what you want for results. :D

spilman 10-30-2007 07:15 AM

WOW, that is very custom....I would say less than a handful of builders will actually do that for the customer.
Also very interesting to see how the different size steps will perform w/different power.

boatfreak 10-30-2007 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2321510)
When I built the molds for the 37 it was a Vee.

The step is an insert in the mold so we can change it or even build a V if you want one!

That sir is why you make the big bucks. I will stick to caring for my cows and leave the boat building to you.:D

by the way, just to fuel an old fire, if its that easy to add a step then it wouldn't be hard for Harry to do a little figuring and throw a plug in the bottom of the 28 mold.;)

crb76 10-30-2007 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 2321820)
That sir is why you make the big bucks. I will stick to caring for my cows and leave the boat building to you.:D

by the way, just to fuel an old fire, if its that easy to add a step then it wouldn't be hard for Harry to do a little figuring and throw a plug in the bottom of the 28 mold.;)

From what Pat has told me. The 28 would have to be totally redesigned. The AVH/DDC hull is based off of length, width and I believe weight (he needs to chime in to give you accurate clarity). Pat told me that the current 28 is not wide enough to just build a plug. He would have to invest in building and whole new hull and deck. Given the market conditions for sub 200K high performance boats, the margins in selling them, that is not a good investment anymore.

From what I understand them same issue came up with the 32. That is why you have a 33 AVH vs. a 32 AVH.

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R Addiction 11-01-2007 09:43 AM

Any news on The Color of Money?

Griff 11-01-2007 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 2321820)
That sir is why you make the big bucks. I will stick to caring for my cows and leave the boat building to you.:D

by the way, just to fuel an old fire, if its that easy to add a step then it wouldn't be hard for Harry to do a little figuring and throw a plug in the bottom of the 28 mold.;)


I think Pat has said that the height at the back of a 28 with a step would be to shallow and create problems.

spilman 11-01-2007 07:12 PM

The 28AT beam is the same as the 37; both are 8'-4", are they not.
Also, well Pat may have said that the 28 transom is not tall enough, others have done it fairly successfully with a lot less height; but that is all matter of opinion.
And of course, this is just mine! Haaa


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