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Sydwayz 03-16-2008 07:39 PM

2009 37 Excess with twin 710 Ilmors...
 
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We're ready. Are you?

Pat and I have been kicking around some new ideas for the 37 Excess this year.

We see some advantages with the Ilmor 710 like fewer moving parts, lighter weight (probably 800+ lbs. total weight savings for twins, using an Imco drive or similar), back to a "trademark" flat and padded sunpad, also lending to a sleeker bilge and associated rigging. We are researching warranty options on the Ilmors as we speak.

If anyone is ready to seriously talk about some brass tacks, you know how to reach me. :boat:

kjm5125 03-16-2008 07:49 PM

Sounds like an impressive package. With the weight savings...WOW!!

slboatdrinks 03-16-2008 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2486993)
We're ready. Are you?

Pat and I have been kicking around some new ideas for the 37 Excess this year.

We see some advantages with the Ilmor 710 like fewer moving parts, lighter weight (probably 1000 lbs. total weight savings for twins, using an Imco drive or similar), back to a "trademark" flat and padded sunpad, also lending to a sleeker bilge and associated rigging. We are researching warranty options on the Ilmors as we speak.

If anyone is ready to seriously talk about some brass tacks, you know how to reach me. :boat:

Looks like "Your" next boat Brian. :D:cool-smiley-011:

crb76 03-16-2008 08:50 PM

Good luck with that one. I have heard mixed reviews on the package and have heard nighmares about the the support! Mercury Rules for a reason!

ACTIVESHACK 03-16-2008 09:58 PM

These engines have to be staggered. If not you'll get left behind. :Whatever:

rssteiny 03-17-2008 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by crb76 (Post 2487106)
Good luck with that one. I have heard mixed reviews on the package and have heard nighmares about the the support! Mercury Rules for a reason!

DITO, MERCURY IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO...

Jassman 03-17-2008 07:18 AM

c'mon...Where's the Diesels and ASD-8's:D

TSPM 03-17-2008 09:09 AM

Alos the not utilizing a blower like the Mercury 700 .... The ILMOR has a fuel burn rate of 43 gallons/hr compared to the Mercury which is 66 Gallons /HR ...fuel saving as well as as weight savings and yes .... less to break on the ILMOR :cool-smiley-011:

crb76 03-17-2008 10:20 AM

Let’s face it! I like efficiency but my fuel cost, even paying $4.60 per in the Keys the last 3 months, is only 10% of my boating cost per year. So with the 700SCI package versus the 710 Ilmors it will be 11-12%! : Whatever: I rather have Mercury, more fuel burn, and piece of mind for my 1-2%.

Sydwayz 03-17-2008 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by crb76 (Post 2487574)
Let’s face it! I like efficiency but my fuel cost, even paying $4.60 per in the Keys the last 3 months, is only 10% of my boating cost per year. So with the 700SCI package versus the 710 Ilmors it will be 11-12%! : Whatever: I rather have Mercury, more fuel burn, and piece of mind for my 1-2%.

Well, at least this thread got the Prop-Master back on OSO. I figured you'd be up the challenge. :eek: :D I guess your protractor is in winter storage, eh? :drink:

crb76 03-17-2008 11:19 AM

just busy! a lot going on...

R Addiction 03-17-2008 11:22 AM

What that "busy" thing like?

Jassman 03-17-2008 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by TSPM (Post 2487469)
Alos the not utilizing a blower like the Mercury 700 .... The ILMOR has a fuel burn rate of 43 gallons/hr compared to the Mercury which is 66 Gallons /HR ...fuel saving as well as as weight savings and yes .... less to break on the ILMOR :cool-smiley-011:


No drive for Ilmor is the other issue. That would be like putting a bravo style drive mated to the Merc 700's...Just a matter of time..with no piece of mind

BOATS OVER 600'S NEED TRANSMISSIONS...except A.T.s...cause they never break, and the owner is the nicest guy in the world.:p:D

Sydwayz 03-17-2008 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2487855)
No drive for Ilmor is the other issue. That would be like putting a bravo style drive mated to the Merc 700's...Just a matter of time..with no piece of mind

BOATS OVER 600'S NEED TRANSMISSIONS...except A.T.s...cause they never break, and the owner is the nicest guy in the world.:p:D

We've got a slightly used set of BMAX drives. We are going to give 'dem a shot. :hitfan:

boatfreak 03-17-2008 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2487855)
No drive for Ilmor is the other issue. That would be like putting a bravo style drive mated to the Merc 700's...Just a matter of time..with no piece of mind

BOATS OVER 600'S NEED TRANSMISSIONS...except A.T.s...cause they never break, and the owner is the nicest guy in the world.:p:D

I would jump in here and defend my set up but I'm sure that would cost me at least one drive this summer so I think I will just be a lurker on this one.:p

Sydwayz 03-17-2008 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2487855)
No drive for Ilmor is the other issue. That would be like putting a bravo style drive mated to the Merc 700's...Just a matter of time..with no piece of mind

BOATS OVER 600'S NEED TRANSMISSIONS...except A.T.s...cause they never break, and the owner is the nicest guy in the world.:p:D

Anything between 674 and 676 HP will break sans a transmission. The 7/10 (700HP) will be fine. :p

ActiveThunder 03-17-2008 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2487913)
Anything between 674 and 676 HP will break sans a transmission. The 7/10 (700HP) will be fine. :p


And he heard THAT from Jim Darr.....:party-smiley-004:

slboatdrinks 03-17-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2487936)
And he heard THAT from Jim Darr.....:party-smiley-004:

:angry-smiley-044:

h2owarrior 03-17-2008 04:43 PM

What about those ILMOR's with Six's behind 'em ?

The sound from those motors is incredible:D:D

ActiveThunder 03-17-2008 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by h2owarrior (Post 2488059)
What about those ILMOR's with Six's behind 'em ?

The sound from those motors is incredible:D:D

Sound like 'rice-burners'?

Out of curiosity, how much is fuel in China?

h2owarrior 03-17-2008 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2488231)
Sound like 'rice-burners'?

Out of curiosity, how much is fuel in China?

It costs about 5.20 RMB per liter. At 7.1 RMB to the Dollar, that equates to about $3.20 to $3.30 per gallon.

Before you go crazy about how cheap it is, they are having shortages as the refiners will not produce more gas or diesel as they are losing money. By the way, the Government sets the price, the Government owns the retail outlets, the Government owns the producers and the Government owns the refiners.

The fuel is very low quality. It is inconsistent in BTU content, many times contains water and particulates. It is a real issue for manufacturers.

Since the Government owns the entire system, they will not allow any foriegn refiners to come in and set up shop. They do not want the competition (from a quality perspective).

Probably more than you wanted to know, but I am setting here waiting for my driver to pick me up and take me to the office.:cool-smiley-011::D

ActiveThunder 03-17-2008 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by h2owarrior (Post 2488297)
It costs about 5.20 RMB per liter. At 7.1 RMB to the Dollar, that equates to about $3.20 to $3.30 per gallon.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but I am setting here waiting for my driver to pick me up and take me to the office.:cool-smiley-011::D

Yeah, we're just sitting here in the States waiting for our driver's to take us to the office, too (little buddy!)

Man, I hate you! :D

R Addiction 03-17-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by h2owarrior (Post 2488297)
but I am setting here waiting for my driver to pick me up and take me to the office.:cool-smiley-011::D

H20, Your driver is here......

R Addiction 03-17-2008 07:32 PM

:d:d

ACTIVESHACK 03-17-2008 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by R Addiction (Post 2488323)
H20, Your driver is here......

LMAO :D

Jassman 03-17-2008 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2487913)
Anything between 674 and 676 HP will break sans a transmission. The 7/10 (700HP) will be fine. :p



I think Jim Darr/Steve Wilson could have been the same guy that sold me those KE 675's:hitfan::party-smiley-004::D

h2owarrior 03-17-2008 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by R Addiction (Post 2488323)
H20, Your driver is here......

LMAO:cool-smiley-011:

never satisfied1 03-17-2008 10:18 PM

Lmao!!!

ActiveThunder 03-18-2008 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2488430)
I think Jim Darr/Steve Wilson could have been the same guy that sold me those KE 675's:hitfan::party-smiley-004::D

Well, they do have something in common.......

They both post and then (talk to) answer themselves! :evilb:


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