32 Thunder?
 

Could a straight bottom 32 still be produced? Is the tooling available to do the hull?

Thanks

Here we go!! One of my favorite hulls!:cool-smiley-011:

The mold is still there but has a dam in it for the 28.. I am surprized Pat hasn't said anything. Just stating what I have seen.

and also where there any changes made tot he deck when the 33 came to market....is the same as the 32 or a whole new deck.....I guess my question is excluding the step what is different about the 33......and based on the previos response....I am assuming the 33 is not the 32 with a step?

oh and BTW the guys of AT are doing a killer job on the 28 skater.......

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...d.php?t=154877

definatly worth the read if you enjoy projects...

Correct. The 33 is not a 32 with a step. The 33 is a 9/10ths version of the 37.

The 32 and 33 decks are not from the same mold.

We can build a non-stepped version of the 33 AT. Almost everything on the 33 is a 9/10s version of the 37, so yes there are differences from the original 32. All of the hulls are related, but they are not damned versions of one big hull. They all have tweaks.

There were two 32 hull molds. One was damned to make the 28 mold. One was sold with the deck and other associated molds.

I was also curious the pedigree of the 32 i was always under the impression that there were 2 31 excaliber molds and one became the 31 thunder and the other became the 33 executioner (fountain beek on a 31 hull) is this the bloodline of the 32? and will the purchaser of the 32 molds be making that boat?.......I would think the 33 would be best with the step since that is how it was designed originally.....and being a scaled version of the 37 I wouldn't want top mess with that.....I still remember Pat and I leaving lighthouse in the first 37 AVH and I circled some guy that was running his mouth at the ramp about his triple 28 pantera would run 90 in the bump.....I actually circled him......and passed him again.....and that 37 was still being dialed in....

That is one great thread. Thanks for the link.

I enjoyed reading it too. I saw the boat and met the guy that owns it back in Febuary and it looks like it's going to be a bad ride when Pats done with it. :cool:

the thunder 32 is built off an excalibur. I think this was # 1. now in arizona

Oh yeah and that slight list to starboard...but grant ya I-lean was a sold BIG water boat.:D:D:evilb:

I'd like to see the paint in person.

Looks sweet!

I'll get some pics. when I go get my boat.

Great read! 14 pages worth:D

I remember back in 2001 when I was looking to purchase the 1990 32' A/T (that I now own) with some little 454cid, problem laddened naturaly aspirated engines that needed repair or total rebuild. There was a also a 1991 33' Powerplay with BIG 556cid supercharged engines for sale that was WATER READY for the same price in the same town, but when I compared the "free board" and the engine compartment room/space, and how the back seat opened up the engine compartment nicely. I new if I ever had engine problems or had to get to something in that Powerplay a person would have to be the size of an elf to get to anything or just be able to pull any kind of routine maintenance! Actually, there are many other boats with the same kind of set-up as the Powerplay. I have seen people work on that boat before and they practically had to be double jointed and be able to stand on their head to get to anything............ha, there was no comparison and it made it a no brainer for me and I bought that AT!!!

I originally thought the new 33's (Active Thunder)extra cockpit room came stricktly from the extra 1 foot that was added to the hull design, but I later found out that some of the engine compartment room of the new 33' had been compromised. The new 33' has a little larger of a cockpit area which is always nice, but it looks as if it came at the expense of shortening up the engine compartment that I greatly appreciated with the attribute of a larger engine compartment the old 32' had!

It's a matter of personal preference, but I always thought the old 32's cockpit room was adequate enough for the size of the boat. If there needs to be work done in the engine compartment I appreciate a little "elbow room" so things aren't too frustrating to get to. I always thought this was one of AT's great attribute of their boats vs many other manufactures. Well, at least they still have the great free board and back seat that exposes the engine nicely. For now I guess I'll hang on to my old 32'. :D

Yeah I know....you're preaching to the chior brother! :party-smiley-048:

the dash and hatch access were the original thunder design.

Well they are 525's and there has been alot of,,,,,well.... lets say discussion about them. But thats Merc and like you say not Pat:p

The 33 was designed with an identical cockpit to the 37, on purpose. Some of the length was taken from the cabin, and some from the engine compartment. (Remember, the 37 has seen triples and staggered setups before.)

We can still adjust the cockpit as needed though. If you want the cockpit shortened up a bit like we did on Color of Money with 3 electric stand-up bolsters across the backseat; we can do that on the 33 as well.

AT is a custom builder. Just ask.

Which 37 had triples?

#2 V-bottom. 500 HPs with Prochargers.

Same guy also bought a twin 28 with 377 Scorpions for his house on Winnipesaukee.

I remember both those boats!! Wasn't his 28 the purple "Barney" boat??

Heard your 37 had a problem. That one and another one. The step insert for the hull mold slid sideways when built. Nevr could fix it right. Leaned over to one side sit'n still and pulled hard to one side while driven. Who ended up with your boat Chuck? Sydwayz could fill in the details.

Ilene did just that. She leaned a bit. She was the first AVH out of the mold, and the boat was corrected. It was just one boat afflicted.

Chuck had a straight bottom 32; not a 37 AVH.

Any more dirt?

I could fill you in if you like. Sitting still is a weight/ balance issue, not a step issue.

Most of the side entry boats, including the good ol' 32 V-bottoms would sit higher port side because the helm, gauges, head, etc. were are on the starboard side.

The first 37 was a learning curve with the insert.....and Chuck didn't own it. He had my first 32, 450 HP boat that started all this AT stuff.

Feel free to ask any other questions that I might be able to answer for you.

Thanks, Patrick

Damn, shoulda read your response before I got my panties in a wad.

Sorry!

465 hp's..don't short me on the power. Best sounding and torquey motors Merc ever built..once you had DRY EXHAUST!!
I just had a lot of wheel&stick time in I-lean.
She NEVER pulled to one side or another at any speed..just that annoying list at rest and the slower speeds.
above 70 mph everything was fine. The bigger the water and the fast you went...OH so fine so fine!!:D:D
and it all looked JUST like jewelry!!:D

My 32 leans a little right at rest and slow speeds as well. Pretty sure its because both batteries are on the far right under the seat. The water tank is on the left side and is always empty. I just added a big third battery to the left side, so it should sit pretty level now. Haven't had it out to check yet.