37 Excess
 

How does the 37 handle the rough water. I'm talking about Lake Erie. For comparison sake, how would you compare the ride against a 38 Top Gun or a 382 Fastech?

Better than any of them :grinser010:

Come down to Ft. Lauderdale for a visit and we'll show you. You will definately be surprised.

Check out these two links:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2043173-post82.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...run-recap.html

I have a 37 in lake erie and there is no comparison ! Runs thru it with ease, best choice we have made, wife and kids love the ride in the rough.

Sydwayz, thanks for the offer. I've always been intrigued by these boats. If I make a move, it will be in the next 6-8 weeks.

Good information to have, what other boats have you been on in Lake Erie? These boats seem to be constructed quite well. My point is ride and comfort as well as construction of the 37. I don't want thinks breaking in the cabin and cockpit.

I've had my personal boat 15+ feet in the air on the Chicago Poker Run and have run some distance in rough 4-6-8 chop/swells in the Atlantic on more than one occasion. This was all before I became involved with Pat and these boats as a Factory Rep. After the Chicago Poker Run, I went through the boat and only found one loose screw in the cabin, and it was probably loose before I started as the hole was stripped. This was also not a structural part. On the 37, you have the option of a drop in cabin liner which makes the entire cabin structure one piece. I think you will like this option for your boat.

Since then, I've been on even more rough water trips in these boats; and I can't tell you how well these boats ride. You just have to experience it.

Here is an excerpt from one of my previous posts:
"The way the dual-hull (DDC) rides is just indescribable. The step comes to a very sharp point at the very center of the keel; the line that is followed from the nose. From the step back to the transom is a somewhat flat pad, that has strakes built into it for accurate tracking. This basically allows the sharp point of the step to land first, and split the water in two, and then the pad carries the boat straight and level with no chine-walk/teeder. With such a dramatic single step, the boat ALWAYS, ALWAYS turns on this one step, at 30, 50, 70, 90 mph. Boats with multiple steps get into a disagreement with the driver on which step to pivot on, at any given situation, and this is how multiple step boats get out of shape in turns. I'll leave it at that. The AT is a single 4" step. Some of the other manufacturers are using 2-2" steps for the same level of efficiency, and angle of attack. Its a pretty well known fact that Cigarette and Fountain did NOT get their single step hulls right. Its a shame that too many folks think a single step does not work, just because they did not get it right.

The 33, 37, and 43 use the same design bottom. The 33 is literally a 9/10s scale version of the 37.
Here is some information on the architect of the DDC hull:
http://www.schoellmarine.com/innovations.htm
And the patent itself: High Speed Planning Hull Re. #36879"

Harry Schoell & Company is just a few doors down from the AT Factory. A trip down to him is referred to "off to the the Wizard." It's pretty convenient having a renowned marine architect just down the street. Accordingly, he is intimately involved with the way these boats are put together.

I belong to a offshore group here on lake erie and have riden in almost every brand, anyone that has ridin in my 37 loves it hands down, i will run it in 4-5 footers at 60 mph which is cruise by the way and have no pounding or beating on the passengers, we have had it out in 6 foot roolers with a 4 foot chop and 25 mph winds with our kids and was still a great ride, never had to back off the throttle for a couple of waves that would have pounded any other boat for sure, even made me cringe at first but now i am getting used to it and just throttle right into them. Construction is excellent as well as comfort and ride, no rattle or flex, I am quite sure we made the best decision in the durability and performance of the A/T with out trying to sound like a commercial. LOL If you are up this way you are welcome to jump onboard for a ride you will never forget. Our demo ride with Pat is to this day the best ride we have ever had. We love ours for sure.

IIRC, Pat was heading directly at the beach, running about 60mph through 4 foot swells or so. Hands off the wheel and sticks, talking like an Italian (which is weird because he is Irish); and at some distance from the beach that should have been measured in feet vs. yards, he yanks the wheel, pulls a 180* sweeper and head back out to sea.

Laz/Linda is that about right?


We took OSO member "Hot Duck" for a ride in Key West in 'Color of Money'; and Pat put set the sticks to around 75mph (700/NXT boat) aimed the boat at a 6 foot wake off the back of a sport fisher, turned wheel right before we launched, crossed his arms and let the boat ride it out. That one was interesting too.

We haven't forgot ours either. What a ride that was at 60 in 6-8s :coolcowboy:

That would be dead on ! Best people I have met to date, awesome ride no doubt. Looking forward to see how the 43 runs for sure.

if these run so well why are the not any race boats?.. i would love to see one of these run with a ZRC ...

Not hater.. I really like these boats and will more than likley own one, one day..

maybe im just not educated...:party-smiley-004:

2 yrs ago coming back from K.W. races we out ran a 43 Nortech at night in 6-8's....:evilb:
the Nortech rode so bad it sloshed all the gas out of it and we had to go rescue him and tow it in:party-smiley-004:
:drink::drink:

Now Chuck be nice.:drink:

What about this one??


http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29872-en.html

That boat is personally owned by another Factory Rep. similar to myself. It was tested by Poker Runs America magazine.

now that was funny...LOL


I'm hear to tell you that the 37 A.T. is a great boat. The newer ones are even better in all aspects vs the 03 I had.. Radio Active. Fit and finish has improved through out the years, and for the coin is extremely hard to beat. The single step definitely works, handles rough water, but you need a 1/2 hour or so with Pat in rough water to fully appreciate how to extract the best on this hull. My 00 SS TG was the worst boat Ive owned, you could feel it sliding on a somewhat aggressive turn at 45mph. My last ride in a 33 and 37 was 07..I would consider another A.T.

Great recommendation and that's why I'm intrigued with these boats. You seem to get "Value" when you purchase.

NOW your talkin'!!

Back when I was looking to upgrade I had the opportunity to get some seat time in a 38 TG TS in some very rough water. Oh my, I wanted one bad! Looked very hard at used ones for a year. Then decided to fly down to Pampano for one of Pat's infamous rides. :eek:

Sold!

There are alot of folks who say the TG is the benchmark in ride quality, and I can say the AT is right there with it. Where this boat really wins is the deep cockpit and cabin. The side by side setup is the bomb. Just love it. (And with the side by side you get both fuel fills on the same side of the boat.) VERY convenient. But, I love the spacious cabin even more. It really is a treat to weekend on. Cig don't offer that! :evilb:

I believe statements like that put you close to having to turn in your tunic and your Cult membership cancelled.:eek::drink:

Factory take trades?

Azzhole! Quote my entire sentence. :angry-smiley-038:

Shoulda known...:grinser010:

Sometimes.

:kiss:

Thank you Pat

I went back and edited my original post. Don't want to be misquoted again. :lolhit:

Don't get upset buddy you know how those Cig guys are :lolhit:

I drool over that thing every time I'm surfing the classifieds. Not sure the 700's/NXT are worth the extra 70-100K over a 525 boat, though.

Brian, what kinds of speeds are you seeing with the 700's vs. the 525's? I'm guessing the mid-range acceleration on the blower motors has to be huge - top end ain't everything ;)

103-105ish with the 700s depending on props, setup, and options.
They will pin you to the bolster.

Build time?

I have been talking to Pat about a 37 with 725 Ilmors. Not sure I can pull it off, but I would love to see him build one. Should be an easy 105+!!!!

Baja=SOLD!!!

Thats what i wanted to hear, sounds awesome. Are you using the XR lower or need a sportmaster ?

Merc NXT drives.

What speeds with the 525's?

A 37 with 525's runs 87-89 I hear.

Can turn 90.5mph with Herrings on stock 525s/XRs.

Would that be a boat without air and gen?

How much do you lose when you add them?

All of the above numbers are fully loaded boats with AC. A Westerbeke gasoline generator might scrub 1mph. It's less than 200 lbs.