Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4103468)

because they are basically the same hull as my my old 38 sonic :) except for pad and step , and your partner already said you would build with out them .
I'm not saying anything bad about the bottom design it just has it's place and follower's ,

Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4103459)

NOT at all , most of your new boats are set up for top end " drive height real high " this give bigger top end # and less mid-range and also getting on plane .
750 hp with a single engine on a xr drive is no problem as long as you no how to throttle the boat . most of these guy's on this site are blowing up xr drives with stock 525's , they do hole shot from a dead stop they get air born and keep the throttle wide open . also with drives real high when running full throttle the top of the drive is out of the water heating up .
Velocity make a nice flat pad bottom boat also and is very fast , I just don't like the way a flat pad hit's the water when its rough . now in nice lake water and anything under 3 footers Im sure a big pad on the bottom works just fine , This is why Pat will build the boat either way step and pad or ole school straight V . Also less chance of a roll over with a straight V and they also feel so much better in the turn's no sliding " you no what I mean :)

Also they have been making straight V bottom's for 10 x as long as step , pad bottom boats so I would hate to think its been done wrong all these years , There is only one benefit of the new step ,pad boats and that is a little more speed . We are not talking anything big between 6 to 10 mph and remember they sacrifice in other area's like very high drive height poor high speed turning and no midrange punch

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4103857)

Not exactly.

http://www.schoellmarine.com/conic.htm

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4104161)

Totally incorrect. The Sonic was a renamed Coyote. The 37 AT originally shared a similar bottom to the Scorpion which was popped from a Cig. I only kept the basic V shape and totally redesigned the chines and lifting strakes as well as the nose. The hull we bought was a rock solid platform to use as a foundation to build off of. Then we introduced the DDC patented step-design on 1999.

For the record we are building the 29 hull mold with the step. If you want a non-step single engine V-bottom in the 28-29 foot range you are back at Pantera I guess....:bestwishes:

Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4104224)

I mite just decide to go bigger twin engine boat . also I have been in a few twin step boat's that have a straight V all the way to the transom and they don't slide as much so that's not out of the question either but I prefer non step boat's especially with my 5 year old on board just for safety reason's
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No Pantera for me :) Sonic possible and A>T if I can get one custom built
I guess Brain was wrong when he stated that you would build one with no step and pad , all you have to do is pull the step and pad insert out of the mold But then the boat would be different from all the rest of the newer A>T's, and different is good , I don't like to be a follower I want it my way :)

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4104161)

Totally incorrect. The Sonic was a renamed Coyote. The 37 AT originally shared a similar bottom to the Scorpion which was popped from a Cig. I only kept the basic V shape and totally redesigned the chines and lifting strakes as well as the nose. The hull we bought was a rock solid platform to use as a foundation to build off of. Then we introduced the DDC patented step-design on 1999.

For the record we are building the 29 hull mold with the step. If you want a non-step single engine V-bottom in the 28-29 foot range you are back at Pantera I guess....:bestwishes:

Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4104241)

Wow, I was overruled.

I did not "no" that was going to happen.