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Faster Daddy 07-31-2015 03:22 AM

Very stiff steering
 
Have Marine Machine full hydraulic steering on 37' 500efi's. Very stiff at all times basically like no power assist. Pump is full and fluid doesn't smell burned. Any ideas on where to start looking? It's a pretty workout turning the wheel.

Sydwayz 07-31-2015 12:21 PM

Is it easier at higher RPMs?

Faster Daddy 07-31-2015 01:58 PM

No sir it's the same at all times

Faster Daddy 07-31-2015 02:03 PM

Someone said possibly the ram or rams could need a rebuild? Another said the pumps on these 500's and 525's don't produce enough pressure and needs a hole drilled somewhere?lol

ActiveThunder 07-31-2015 03:15 PM

Open the cap and see if fluid is flowing. Whoever told you to drill a hole somewhere, disregard that idea.


Originally Posted by Faster Daddy (Post 4336816)
Someone said possibly the ram or rams could need a rebuild? Another said the pumps on these 500's and 525's don't produce enough pressure and needs a hole drilled somewhere?lol


Faster Daddy 07-31-2015 04:14 PM

Lol I kinda threw the drilling out the window already!! Alright I'll fj the fluid sir for circulating sir. Thank you!!

michigan troll 08-02-2015 09:37 AM

Replace the pump.

Faster Daddy 08-31-2015 12:17 AM

Ok guys replaced the pump and still too hard to turn. Did help it a little, but very little.. Any other ideas or suggestions would be much appreciated. Going to check the filter tomorrow, but idk if that could/would caus this?? Always the same stiffness regardless of RPM's.

Faster Daddy 08-31-2015 12:25 AM

Was just doing some searching and read about what fluid to use. Is it possible the "power steering fluid" is too light for the system and I should put "ATF fluid" in it instead??

thirdchildhood 08-31-2015 06:41 AM

My Zeiger system does call for ATF but I doubt that's your problem. If you haven't checked the filter yet, that could be your problem. Just see if you can blow through it.

CIG3 08-31-2015 10:36 AM

I do like ATF (Type F) instead of power steering fluid.

My Addiction 09-02-2015 09:01 PM

I dont know what it could be but when I blew a ram seal and lost all fluid it was hard to steer all the time, until I put more fluid in, or fixed it of course.

Griff 09-03-2015 01:33 AM

Does it have an external reservoir?????

Faster Daddy 09-03-2015 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4349342)
My Zeiger system does call for ATF but I doubt that's your problem. If you haven't checked the filter yet, that could be your problem. Just see if you can blow through it.

Is the a possibility a filter was never installed? It has Marine Machine steering and I can't see a filter anywhere? Don't see a place where one used to be either. Though maybe it jurst got removed by someone along the way? Any suggestions as to where to look on a 2000 37'? Only spot I cannot see is where the lines are running in the tubes of course.

Faster Daddy 09-03-2015 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4350697)
Does it have an external reservoir?????

Yes it has the black plastic res directly above the pump

Faster Daddy 09-03-2015 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by My Addiction (Post 4350646)
I dont know what it could be but when I blew a ram seal and lost all fluid it was hard to steer all the time, until I put more fluid in, or fixed it of course.

I don't have any leaks that I can see anywhere and the resovoir stays full all the time

Griff 09-04-2015 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by Faster Daddy (Post 4351129)
Yes it has the black plastic res directly above the pump

Can you post a pic of this set up and how its connected to your regular PS pump reservoir???

Faster Daddy 09-04-2015 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4351143)
Can you post a pic of this set up and how its connected to your regular PS pump reservoir???

I can snap a pic later today lol. It has the tube running straight to the plastic resovoir above pump and the high pressure line that screws into the back of pump.

CIG3 09-04-2015 08:17 AM

The filter should be on the high pressure side. Trace the line from the back of the pump. the filter should be between the pump and helm unit. Usually mounted on the stringer closest to the pump.

http://www.everettperformance.com/PD...se_Drawing.pdf

mo3d 09-04-2015 11:36 AM

I have the same problem with mine at idle. Its better when rpm about 1200+. My pump has been drilled and it did make a slight improvement. I dread docking/loading. !! Anyway I was told I needed to replace the pump. May be interested in one of your pumps Faster Daddy.
Pat told me that there is NOT a filter installed (at least on Savage w/ 500EFI)


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