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DaveK26 12-07-2015 10:10 PM

33 vs 37
 
AT owners- I am looking to step up to a used twin engine boat with nice cabin space for the family and am looking for some feedback on the 33 and 37. Where is the extra 4' is it cabin, cockpit or about even? I have climbed around a 33 with the side by side bolsters and like the layout and cabin space but am also considering a 37 for more space yet. Any big differences in ride/rough water ability? Trailering/launching? We will be trailering with a F350 SRW diesel and currently run Lake Michigan and IL river. If the boat has shore power is it easy to add AC/Heat? I have looked at several different boats in the 35 foot range but the AT's seem to have the largest functional cabins. I appreciate any feedback.
Thanks

Griff 12-08-2015 01:36 AM

I would go with a 37. My reasons being the extra 4' for a better ride and extra space overall.
Not to mention there are very few 33's to be had and the 37's only sell for slightly more.
I've been in a 37 but not a 33 so don't know exactly where teh space difference are.
I'm sure Sydwayz or Pat can give specifics.

sommerfliesby 12-08-2015 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by DaveK26 (Post 4383254)
AT owners- I am looking to step up to a used twin engine boat with nice cabin space for the family and am looking for some feedback on the 33 and 37. Where is the extra 4' is it cabin, cockpit or about even? I have climbed around a 33 with the side by side bolsters and like the layout and cabin space but am also considering a 37 for more space yet. Any big differences in ride/rough water ability? Trailering/launching? We will be trailering with a F350 SRW diesel and currently run Lake Michigan and IL river. If the boat has shore power is it easy to add AC/Heat? I have looked at several different boats in the 35 foot range but the AT's seem to have the largest functional cabins. I appreciate any feedback.
Thanks

Guessing from your locale that the 33 you crawled around in was this one? http://www.grandsportcenter.com/pop-...r-33-evolution

Beautiful boat.

If you'd like to check out a 37, you are welcome to come down by me. It's currently in "winter mode" with all the cushions out of it and the drives off for refresh, but otherwise sitting right in my heated shop.

Sydwayz 12-08-2015 12:24 PM

The 33 is literally 9/10s of the 37, overall.
The cockpit on both boats is literally exactly the same.
The length difference is the the engine room/bilge (about 2' shorter), and in the cabin, (about 18" shorter).

Towing/launching/trailering differences will be negligible. Actually, the 37 might even be a hair easier, depending on the trailer. You need deep enough water to float the boat over the step. You may find that deeper water easier with the 37 vs. the 33, again pending trailer and ramp conditions.

Your truck will tow either just fine.

We've had the 33s and 37s in the exact same rough water conditions, and the only thing that the 37 does better is span waves with a slight advantage based on length. Otherwise, they ride exactly the same, by design.

Adding AC/Heat should not be a big deal at all. I've seen several boats that it has been added to. It will take a while, but all of the boats are designed for it.

The only thing that is pretty much impossible to fit in the 33, compared to a 37; is a generator. That's what goes in the extra 2 feet of engine bay.

TDSTYG 12-08-2015 12:46 PM

the 33 has just as much room as the 37. cabin is almost the same. i have owned a 33 and been on a couple 37's and i can not tell the difference. you gain 2 foot in the engine area for the spot for gen, and i believe a foot In cabin. the 33 surprised the crap out of me in the ride department. been on 38 donzi, 38 cig, 38 beak ect ect and the 33 is just as good if not better than all of them. the 33 has the best cabin in its size of boat peroid, none other compare. i was going to add AC to mine just never got around too it. not hard at all and its easy to install lots of room for everything. i liked the 33 cause no one else has one(spread out around the country) and faster than the 37 with same power. my buddy has a nice 32 AT but the 2 boats are not even close to the same in any way. get on a 33 and get on his is like night and day, cabin is tiny cramped. like a 33 to a 28 foot boat. i loved mine and everywhere you go people huddle around it

Pwraddr 12-08-2015 04:24 PM

OP, I would look really hard at ^^^^ his boat.

MN35LIGHTNING 12-08-2015 09:59 PM

Agree with Pwraddr. I spoke to Teddy on his 33 and on top of being a super nice guy he has a super nice AT.

Sydwayz 12-08-2015 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by MN25CITATION (Post 4383593)
Agree with Pwraddr. I spoke to Teddy on his 33 and on top of being a super nice guy he has a super nice AT.

You sure about that first part? :D

DaveK26 12-09-2015 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 4383320)
Guessing from your locale that the 33 you crawled around in was this one? http://www.grandsportcenter.com/pop-...r-33-evolution

Beautiful boat.

If you'd like to check out a 37, you are welcome to come down by me. It's currently in "winter mode" with all the cushions out of it and the drives off for refresh, but otherwise sitting right in my heated shop.

Yes that is the 33 I was in. Went up there to see it as soon as I saw it listed since I have only seen pics and videos of the boats. I would definitely like to see yours so I know the differences between the boats if you don't mind.

DaveK26 12-09-2015 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4383421)
The 33 is literally 9/10s of the 37, overall.
The cockpit on both boats is literally exactly the same.
The length difference is the the engine room/bilge (about 2' shorter), and in the cabin, (about 18" shorter).

Towing/launching/trailering differences will be negligible. Actually, the 37 might even be a hair easier, depending on the trailer. You need deep enough water to float the boat over the step. You may find that deeper water easier with the 37 vs. the 33, again pending trailer and ramp conditions.

Your truck will tow either just fine.

We've had the 33s and 37s in the exact same rough water conditions, and the only thing that the 37 does better is span waves with a slight advantage based on length. Otherwise, they ride exactly the same, by design.

Adding AC/Heat should not be a big deal at all. I've seen several boats that it has been added to. It will take a while, but all of the boats are designed for it.

The only thing that is pretty much impossible to fit in the 33, compared to a 37; is a generator. That's what goes in the extra 2 feet of engine bay.

Exactly the info I was looking for thanks! We like the freedom of trailering to different places and it sounds like either boat is doable. Any idea what the parts for the AC cost ballpark? Also if the boat doesn't have the table option to put filler cushions on for another bed what is ballpark cost on the parts for that? Appreciate the info so far.

sommerfliesby 12-09-2015 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by DaveK26 (Post 4383867)
Yes that is the 33 I was in. Went up there to see it as soon as I saw it listed since I have only seen pics and videos of the boats. I would definitely like to see yours so I know the differences between the boats if you don't mind.

Shoot me an email: mike(at)diagrind.com.

Sydwayz 12-09-2015 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by DaveK26 (Post 4383871)
Exactly the info I was looking for thanks! We like the freedom of trailering to different places and it sounds like either boat is doable. Any idea what the parts for the AC cost ballpark? Also if the boat doesn't have the table option to put filler cushions on for another bed what is ballpark cost on the parts for that? Appreciate the info so far.

Both of those you can have done locally, unless you want to bring them to FL and we can do them at the factory. The first handful of 33s, including the one you are looking at have completely custom interiors. What you would be having built for interior platform/cushions would be custom spec'd for that 33. We could do it remotely, but it would require a template & shipping costs.

Shogren's new shop arm would likely be a good option for you, more locally. There is a guy in McHenry area that everyone locally raves about for mechanical and he can likely do the AC as well. (Keith at Waves and Wheels, IIRC)

Plan on $6K-ish for the AC and interior mods. (Marine AC is NOT cheap. Unit is no bigger than a window unit from Home Depot, but it needs to be able to withstand the pounding which is what cranks up the cost.) You could get away with a 7K BTU, but I recommend a 10K BTU so the unit isn't completely pegged.

TDSTYG 12-10-2015 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4383596)
You sure about that first part? :D

Really! I see how it is Brian:angry-smiley-038:

TDSTYG 12-10-2015 01:35 PM

i was gonna have 4200.00 in doing what you would like to this boat. just could never stop using it to get it done!!!!!! and when winter came i was about to let it sit outside at a shop. im weird

Sydwayz 12-10-2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by TDSTYG (Post 4384097)
Really! I see how it is Brian:angry-smiley-038:

Just kidding my friend. I look forward to when we can :ernaehrung004: again. Miami Boat Show in Feb?

Gladhe8er 12-10-2015 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4384103)
Just kidding my friend. I look forward to when we can :ernaehrung004: again. Miami Boat Show in Feb?

I'll be there! The Rage is going to be in the show.

TDSTYG 12-12-2015 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4384103)
Just kidding my friend. I look forward to when we can :ernaehrung004: again. Miami Boat Show in Feb?

I will be there! Flying in wendsday heading down to key largo for couple days. Going to show on Friday


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