Looking to buy!!!!
 

Hello Im looking to buy an American Offshore 3100 or an Awesome cat 31. Let me know whats for sale or what you have. Would like to spend under $60000.

I have a 2002 AO31 with merc 300X outboards for sale.

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14815

I seen that one! Its a beauty but im looking for something with 500efi or 525efi

Ran-Dom32

I went to look at Phil's boat on Sunday. Although advertised as excellent condition the boat is a fixer upper. Engine bay was covered in oil. Parts missing from the motors. Trim indicators hanging off the drives. Every seat is cracked or torn. The cuddy headliner was hanging down. The gauges and switches are all faded and ruined. There is holes in the gelcoat right through to fibreglass. Although I don't have top dollar to spend I'm not looking for something that is too far gone to bring back. Phil's pictures were taken in 2010. He told me it was very clean. I drove 7 hours to look at a nightmare so I'm still looking!

I wish I was ready to sell! But I really want the boat for the winter... Maybe if you are still looking in the spring Big Boss.

you mean 14 hours? :lolhit:

I think you are exaggerating for the most part on your mentioned items!

Also I did send you plenty of pictures (taken) the day you requested them. There was no oil "all over the engine bay". Parts missing off the motors?? it was ready for sea trial........... There is a small spot on the headliner that needs to be reset. The seats are NOT all cracked, torn and faded, and yes the trim indicator (cables) do need to be replaced, not that expensive. Gauges are not fadded-one bezzel has scratch on it and the switches DO need updating. Again... can be done for $200-300.

Fixer upper??? give your head a shake clown. FEW SMALL ITEMS

good luck finding your showroom condition boat with your budget!:drool1:

I guess some people's definition of mint is different from another's. Phil I'm sure your boat WAS nice, I think you are very attached to it and don't see what your actually stuck with. On the bright side, you will have 2 spare 500efi's sitting in that flower planter in your driveway for your new boat.

too far gone to bring back.I have fixed many boats, not one was "too far gone"

To trash someone like that is not cool,:poopoo:
Good luck on your hunt.

36 spectre
 

i have a 36' spectre for sale 70k firm,its on offshore only.its a 2000 its not new but very nice.ive owned five a/o good boat for the money but doesnt compare to a spectre.make sure you drive a 31 a/o before you buy,i never could get the hop out of mine.

:bong::bong:[QUOTE=bigboss;3793553]Ran-Dom32

I've been on Phil's boat many times, & It is a clean boat, that runs strong, (I used to own a 31 Awesome... that was a project boat!) Too far gone? wow, WTF, I've yet to see a PERFECT used boat, they always need something, if you think a couple cables & some interior work is to far gone, you should find a new hobby..
FYI the oil in the bilge is called splatter paint

:lolhit:

You are letting the current economic condition guide you in your boat search.

Not here to defend Phil, or any current/former AO, Awesome or Chris Cat owner. Simply put, the price Phil is asking for his boat is very fair and correct.

Being in the top 3 of rebuilding/upgrading a 31 cat, I know amout of time and money (please no wise cracks on the time element guys-------:picard1:) required.

These 31 cat's are unique in the fact that they handle big water, offer a great ride in various water conditions, have a small useable cabin, stern or OB power, length/weight/8'6" beam offers easy trailering, good exterior appearance. Making them a great all around performance boat.

Excellent description...I love mine. For a smaller cat it handles Lake Michigan great.

And forgot to list in the "can do" section, these 31 cat's can handle some big power. And I do mean BIG Bigboss.

Just ask Randy (CNC) about his power providers. Those #5 speedies are on his transom for a big reason.

I have done a bunch of searching on here and like everything about the A.Os and Awesomes. I guess I used the wrong term by saying too far gone. Anything can be brought back, it's all about the time and money. I just don't want to spend 60000k on a boat and put 10000-15000k into it to bring it to average condition, I would be smarter to find a clean, solid boat and spend a little more off the bat, besides I want to spend all of this time cruising on the water. It's just discouraging to waste 14 hours of driving. Lesson learned.

10-15K to bring it back to average condition????????????? it is much better than average condition already.............

the boat does not need 10-15k worth of work :hitfan:......... fix the trim cables, reset the head liner and upgrade the swithces. All this can be done for under $900 very easily. I think that for the agreed price we had you would have had a solid good looking boat under your budget even after fixing it.

the fact that you wasted 14 hours of your dads & your own time is because you didnt take the time to think logically about what the cost were to fix these small items.

when you look at the $$ I spent on the paint, motors and drives (which you confirmed by calling the performance shop that did the work) it is a mechanically sound boat at a good price.

after describing my boat as a flower pot I wish you nothing but the worst of luck finding your new boat. Maybe you will blow a motor and have to sell more chattels from your house to get it repaired.

some flags should have been raised when you told me your were selling your furniture and stereo to come up with the money.

have a nice day :drink:

It seems every time you open your mouth Phil there is a lie or misleading statement. Don't be mad at me because I wasn't blinded by your bull****. Good luck with selling your boat and good luck with your new family. Now, give the arguing up and go dump a litre of oil in that boat and take her for a spin before winter gets here.

Stuart, I am just stating true facts here. I am not mad that you didn't buy my boat. I am mad that you would come on here and trash my boat when it is much better then you are describing it to be............:hijack:

Phillp999 is there pics your boat somewhere ?

One year now with my Chris Cat. Pick up the
Boat at other country. We drive to look the
boat before pick up it tooks 1400miles.
So happy with it ;)
we have been our issues
with it.
that is what you allways get when you buy
used/old its part of story.
But those are nothing for what that package has
give allready :)

Nice lookin AO - - Mitcher T paint is killer, and probably wasn't cheap

thanks for the compliments. And yes while this tread is about the quality of my boat now, I will just post some pic's.:nicethread:

recent pictures

more pictures (there are 2 small scratches from rafting off)
one more thing I would do is have some vynil paint done where the cresting/embroidery is. The thread is coming apart.

That is real nice, If I didn't already have one I'd buy it. Boy that sure a lot oil slung all around the engine compartment.

It is clear that Bigboss does not know high performance boats and their values. Here are three BIG high points.

1) New Mitch Tolan paint design/paintwork.
2) IMCO extension boxes on Merc Bravo XR's
3) Merc Racing HP525 motors
These are all high end sought after items for an HP boat.

Com'on. All of the items you mentioned are just nitt pick things. Gauges may be an exception. However, if that bad in your eyes, a full set from Livorsi would not go over 2500. So for 62,500 and some TLC, you have a great ride for next summer. Jezzzz.

Are you sure I'm the one that does not know high performance boats. Phil's boat has stellings extension boxes on stock Bravo 1s, and they are 500efi's. FAIL!

If Phil's boat looked like it does in these pictures it would be in my driveway. The pictures of the engine bay and drives are 2 years old. The cosmetic paint is not the oil I'm talking about. The bilge has oil EVERYWHERE and the whole boat smelt like gas probably due to the dreaded A.O fuel tank problem. This boat would make a great project for you guys that like working on your boats instead of driving them ( I have friends like that too) I know every boat will need attention but you have to draw the line somewhere. I went today to look at an older boat (1997 slingshot 388) and It was in amazing condition inside and out. It wasn't hard to tell it was looked after and maintained correctly. If all goes well with the test drive Sunday it will be my new boat. :)

Cool boat, thanks for the pics its allways nice to
See pics of these cats :)

Just sold wifeys car out of new one.
The engine room was clean and buyer
say hmm.. so that engine room are hard washed...
Like there are some failures..

So it looks that its never good.
But at the end the guy bought the car and
in price what we asked.
so maybe clean is better .. :)

From the pics Phil posted (and not closely viewed on my part), it was purely my assumption that he had a pair of HP525's. And with that, most are mated up to the XR's. That also applies to the extension boxes. Since both IMCO and Stellings are 12" boxes, visually I assumed the IMCO given that IMCO is the majority sold. Closer inspection on my part would have shown the inspection plate differences.

My only fail here is thinking that you deserve to be owning a cat Mr. 14 poster. I have forgotten more then you will ever know about these cats and the equipment in them.

I just stumbled on this thread and I have to say that I found it both amusing and sad.
I can't believe all the posts bashing Bigboss for not spending his money on a boat that he feels needs more work than he is willing to do. It said somewhere that he had to sell his stereo to even come up with enough cash to make the purchase, so perhaps his funds are limited, therefore he was looking for a turn key boat. Seems reasonable to me.
I guess he could of just kept the faults he found with the boat to himself. Maybe he just calls a spade a spade or the fact that he apparently made a very long trip, only to find a boat not as described pissed him off a little?
Anyway, I wish both parties good luck. Phill p999 I hope you sell your boat and Bigboss I hope to find the straight boat your looking for. After all, if you have the cash in this economy, you have the upper hand. Watch for flags, like old pictures, vague pictures from a distance, poor description, no service records or bills for work done,etc. I personally travelled many miles and viewed a lot of neglected crafts before I found my current boat, so I can sympathize. Don't give up, they are out there!

Paul you bring to this thread some valid points. My issue with Bigboss is:
1) his attempt to devalue the boat in question without considering all of the equipment installed
2) his public slapping of the owner of the boat

Post #8 is over the top. I will add to your well placed post this. If you have a difference of opinion relative to a boat you are viewing for possible purchase, keep it between the owner and yourself. Look at it from the opposite view point. Someday Bigboss might be selling a 388 Hustler. Would he appreciate someone who has viewed his boat coming on a boat website and bashing "his" boat and killing possible potential buyers? Think not.

Rotax454, I try to look at situations from all sides. The way I take it, the condition of the boat wasn't accurately described. I can't see anyone making a long trip, presumably in a vehicle capable of towing a boat home, just to kick the tires and walk away. Obviously something dramatic changed his plans. Like I stated, I also suffered too many wasted trips, only to find the boat misrepresented and heard the usual excuses, ie , "Oh, they all crack there". " I just spilled oil there " , " Its always had that little engine noise" etc. Granted
sometimes the problems were small and easily repairable but spoke volumes about the honesty and integrity of the seller.
It's not up to the seller to decide what's important to the buyer or considered normal wear and tear. The buyer should accurately describe his article and let the purchaser decide if that's what he wants. I looked at the ads for the Cat and no where did I find any mention of any issues, even the ones admitted by the owner. Great looking boat though, lots of potential.

I'm not entirely sure if a person knows of a boat or whatever for sale ,that he honestly believes has issues, that he should keep it a secret. Forums are for sharing info, good and bad. I'm sure if bigboss found the boat straight and in great shape but just couldn't make a deal for other reasons, and spread the word about great it was, there would be no complaints.

Phil assuming those are recent pictures, she looks really nice. The boat is priced right as well. I am sure you will have her sold in the very near future... And bigboss, I have a feeling one day (most likely while watching a 100mph cat blowing by you and your Hustler) you may find yourself second guessing your decisions. Haha! Good luck to both...

And BB, take it easy on the bashing. You will want to sell a boat someday too!