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ApachePete 01-10-2007 01:40 PM

Where are Meanstreak and 41st Airborn?
 
Nykamp?

Anybody?

Mister Bueller?:D

el indio 01-10-2007 01:54 PM

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41 st airborn.............code name name tonto..............ring a bell....

cougarman 01-10-2007 02:27 PM

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I thought you were talking about this one, but after pulling the pics up I see it's Fighter 1. Always loved this boat too, anyone know where this one went?

cougarman 01-10-2007 02:29 PM

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Here's Meanstreak.............

cougarman 01-10-2007 02:34 PM

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Only pic I could find of 41st Airborne.

cougarman 01-10-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by el indio (Post 1989134)
41 st airborn.............code name name tonto..............ring a bell....


MM wasn't the old Fighter Squadron...... now Tonto ?

Cougarman

Rocco 01-10-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 1989161)
Here's Meanstreak.............

The Gentlemen who owns Meanstreak is from Vineland ,NJ (his last name is Gallo). He is good freinds with Bob Wallace from Offshore Performance of Egg Harbor Township, NJ (near Somers Point). Bob takes care of a whole stable of Apaches (War Party, Island Runner, Red Hot and I think Predator when Ed Toth owned it)

el indio 01-10-2007 03:39 PM

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air born, fighter squadron same thhing or close........

el indio 01-10-2007 03:39 PM

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meanstreak.............14,000 lbs i heard........

ApachePete 01-10-2007 04:25 PM

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Cougarman has the right Pics.

Bobby Gallo owned Meanstreak, and raced it with Bobby Saccenti. I just wondered if he still had it.

41st Airborn was owned/built for a "swamp" :D friend of MM, who sold it to him un-rigged. But I don't know if it's any of those mentioned as possibilities above.

Nykamp 01-10-2007 05:01 PM

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I hear Meanstreak has been in storage for many years, I believe 41st Airborn is on the eastcoast, somebody posted picture of it awhile back. That big Grey 47 is in Europe I believe most of the time, I think it was at McManus a while back when I was there with mine.

el indio 01-10-2007 06:27 PM

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great boat.......really cool paint job.....very tasteful....

sean stinson 01-10-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 1989318)
Cougarman has the right Pics.

Bobby Gallo owned Meanstreak, and raced it with Bobby Saccenti. I just wondered if he still had it.

41st Airborn was owned/built for a "swamp" :D friend of MM, who sold it to him un-rigged. But I don't know if it's any of those mentioned as possibilities above.



A Gallo owns but not the same Gallo that did..... no relation to each other either. Bob Wallace takes care of it in Mays Landing.

Tonto owns the fighter squadron boat now named Tonto that originally belonged to Waxman and then another gentleman whose name slips my mind I believe calderone maybe. 41st airborne I dont have a clue anymore......

BRD 01-10-2007 09:49 PM

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Meanstreak looks awsome ..... except for the color !:drink:

el indio 01-10-2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BRD (Post 1989671)
Meanstreak looks awsome ..... except for the color !:drink:

dont go there.......m.m..

LEOPAJM 01-11-2007 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by el indio (Post 1989723)
dont go there.......m.m..

Yeah ..... The 41's just don't look right in in RED :rolleyes: :D :drink:

RedDog382 01-11-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BRD (Post 1989671)
Meanstreak looks awsome ..... except for the color !:drink:

OK, now I'm confused. Who is BRD and why do you have all the same boats as LEOPAJM?

LEOPAJM 01-11-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 1989979)
OK, now I'm confused. Who is BRD and why do you have all the same boats as LEOPAJM?


He must have good taste ! :rolleyes:

BRD is on the home computer and Leopa at the office .... I'm too lazy to log out .... AND ..... I couldn;t remember the passwords once I got home to begin with !??!??!! :drink:

el indio 01-11-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by el indio (Post 1989723)
dont go there.......m.m..

meaning do not bad rapp the paint job....the owner takes that real seriously.......you new guys are clueless.........m.m.......

Ryan Beckley 01-11-2007 10:12 AM

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I remember both of these boats raced in the OPT near the same time. Meastreak always ran well and the couldn't get 41st to finish a race , I think it had some crazy blower motors in it.....

ApachePete 01-11-2007 10:35 AM

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Ryan, yes those guys ran OPT in '90-'92, along with Allez Vite. Three 41 Apaches against a bunch of cats, and Reggie in the Ohio Steel Fountain. Great times!

41st did have some serious reliability problems, but not because his motors were particularly "Wild." Rather, they were home-built by a buddy of the owner (who never actually got in the boat for races: had his buddies do it), but I think the engine guy's experience was with cars, not boats. When he ran, he was about the same speed as Meanstreak, which had the same C & G 1000's we ran. Both were a couple of ticks slower than Allez Vite, for some unexplained reason.:D

When we (along with Ohio Steel) switched to Merc 1000's in late '91, the other Apache's had stopped racing, probably because it was increasing clear that no amount of hoursepower was going to help us beat the Skater 40's. That was the end of Vee's and Cats racing against eachother in the same class.

I can only imagine what it would have been like if we had today's hull technology for the Vee's back then. Sure would have been fun to run a 130 MPH Skater 39V against those cats! Back then, it would have been a "Cat-Killer" for sure!

cougarman 01-11-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by el indio (Post 1990017)
meaning do not bad rapp the paint job....the owner takes that real seriously.......you new guys are clueless.........m.m.......


mm
If memory serves me Leopajm / BRD used that particular boat as inspiration to build his Own Saber red.

Hence picking on the color / his own color.

Leopajm's a good guy and respectful of the tribe.:drink:

Cougarman

cougarman 01-11-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 1990058)
Ryan, yes those guys ran OPT in '90-'92, along with Allez Vite. Three 41 Apaches against a bunch of cats, and Reggie in the Ohio Steel Fountain. Great times!

41st did have some serious reliability problems, but not because his motors were particularly "Wild." Rather, they were home-built by a buddy of the owner (who never actually got in the boat for races: had his buddies do it), but I think the engine guy's experience was with cars, not boats. When he ran, he was about the same speed as Meanstreak, which had the same C & G 1000's we ran. Both were a couple of ticks slower than Allez Vite, for some unexplained reason.:D

When we (along with Ohio Steel) switched to Merc 1000's in late '91, the other Apache's had stopped racing, probably because it was increasing clear that no amount of hoursepower was going to help us beat the Skater 40's. That was the end of Vee's and Cats racing against eachother in the same class.

I can only imagine what it would have been like if we had today's hull technology for the Vee's back then. Sure would have been fun to run a 130 MPH Skater 39V against those cats! Back then, it would have been a "Cat-Killer" for sure!


Always great to read you post Pete !! :drink: :D

Cougarman

el indio 01-11-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 1990084)
mm
If memory serves me Leopajm / BRD used that particular boat as inspiration to build his Own Saber red.

Hence picking on the color / his own color.

Leopajm's a good guy and respectful of the tribe.:drink:

Cougarman

i am very happy for him....from what i remember it is just uncool to copy or bad rapp that paint job......no mo info!

Ryan Beckley 01-11-2007 11:43 AM

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Pete your boat was one of my favorites, I remember when you guys left the dock late but still won the race in Key West........ Go FAST!!!

cougarman 01-11-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by el indio (Post 1990121)
i am very happy for him....from what i remember it isjust uncool to copy or bad rapp that paint job......no mo info!

mm ............your right.
And your the last guy I want to argue with.

It's just red though, they have no other similarity's other than the mold they came out of. No grafics or anything of meanstreaks.

I'll leave it at that, I don't mean harm or foul to any of ya.

Cougarman

el indio 01-11-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 1990140)
mm ............your right.
And your the last guy I want to argue with.

It's just red though, they have no other similarity's other than the mold they came out of. No grafics or anything of meanstreaks.

I'll leave it at that, I don't mean harm or foul to any of ya.

Cougarman

no harm done here......the only foul was the chicken i had for lunch...........

LEOPAJM 01-11-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by el indio (Post 1990017)
meaning do not bad rapp the paint job....the owner takes that real seriously.......you new guys are clueless.........m.m.......


mm

I wish I was a little "newer" of a new guy actually .:rolleyes:

That was simply a "rapp" on my own **** ... a usual BTW .

And ... I'd imagine that whoever the owner is .... he could care less that some guys on a website are chatting about his boat .

JM

LEOPAJM 01-11-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 1990084)
mm
If memory serves me Leopajm / BRD used that particular boat as inspiration to build his Own Saber red.

Hence picking on the color / his own color.

Leopajm's a good guy and respectful of the tribe.:drink:

Cougarman

Hey Jon ...

Actually , the idea to go with red came from 1. FatBoy (38T/G) and 2. the fact that my lagoon get so ****ty in the summer that all my white bottomed boats get stained on the running surface after a couple weeks of use ....

cougarman 01-11-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LEOPAJM (Post 1990248)
Hey Jon ...

Actually , the idea to go with red came from 1. FatBoy (38T/G) and 2. the fact that my lagoon get so ****ty in the summer that all my white bottomed boats get stained on the running surface after a couple weeks of use ....


Jerry,

That's cool,........I was just going off memory in an email you and I shared during the build of your boat. I had stated to you how sharpe red should look and that I didn't ever remember ever seeing a red Apache. And you brought to my attension MeanStreak.
So perhaps it's my fault assuming it was your inspiration.

Sorry about that MM................

Jon

LEOPAJM 01-11-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 1990263)
Jerry,

That's cool,........I was just going off memory in an email you and I shared during the build of your boat. I had stated to you how sharpe red should look and that I didn't ever remember ever seeing a red Apache. And you brought to my attension MeanStreak.
So perhaps it's my fault assuming it was your inspiration.

Sorry about that MM................

Jon

Hey Jon .... no worries man .... I don't take any of this stuff too seriously anymore ..... I just don't want to hafta work too hard keeping them clean .... and make sure I get back to the dock more times then not . As Mr. Nykamp (budlite) would say ..... "It's all good !"

ApachePete 01-11-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Beckley (Post 1990130)
Pete your boat was one of my favorites, I remember when you guys left the dock late but still won the race in Key West........ Go FAST!!!

Ahh. What a day!

I remember MM arrived after the race (1991 Worlds Final) had ended, and didn't know the results. When I told him in the wet pits, he didn't believe me. :cool:

We started about a half mile behind everyone else, because we had steering problems and OPT refused to delay the start for us. But it was 3-4's on the outside, and we were first to the first mark and never looked back.

We were so green that when we never saw another boat ahead of us, we figured that we must be off course and hopelessly lost.

Remember the days whe "offshore" actually raced offshore, and you had to (gulp) navagate. Without GPS!

We couldn't have made the race were it not for Bob Latham. He busted his butt to fix our steering problem (an Everglades FU), and then refused payment for his work.

A class guy if there ever was one.:D

And Kathy's not too bad, either! :evilb:

Ryan Beckley 01-11-2007 03:01 PM

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I have Latham in all my boats, wouldn't use anything else..........

TOASTY 01-16-2007 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 1990307)
Ahh. What a day!

I remember MM arrived after the race (1991 Worlds Final) had ended, and didn't know the results. When I told him in the wet pits, he didn't believe me. :cool:

We started about a half mile behind everyone else, because we had steering problems and OPT refused to delay the start for us. But it was 3-4's on the outside, and we were first to the first mark and never looked back.

We were so green that when we never saw another boat ahead of us, we figured that we must be off course and hopelessly lost.

Remember the days whe "offshore" actually raced offshore, and you had to (gulp) navagate. Without GPS!

We couldn't have made the race were it not for Bob Latham. He busted his butt to fix our steering problem (an Everglades FU), and then refused payment for his work.

A class guy if there ever was one.:D

And Kathy's not too bad, either! :evilb:


& thats not the 1st time Mr. Latham has done pro-bono work...cdc

Nauti Kitty 01-16-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LEOPAJM (Post 1990248)
Hey Jon ...

Actually , the idea to go with red came from 1. FatBoy (38T/G) and 2. the fact that my lagoon get so ****ty in the summer that all my white bottomed boats get stained on the running surface after a couple weeks of use ....

Maybe you should have painted it brown. :p

BTW After 3000 posts you can't be called new anymore. NK

LEOPAJM 01-17-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 1995507)
Maybe you should have painted it brown. :p

BTW After 3000 posts you can't be called new anymore. NK

Yeah .... no **** ..... not with my "hairline" either !??!?! :rolleyes:

offshoredrillin 01-17-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 1995507)
Maybe you should have painted it brown. :p

I could get ya some UPS sticker Jerry :D

lucy 01-18-2007 07:46 AM

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:drink: :p

LEOPAJM 01-18-2007 08:41 AM

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"What can Brown do for you ?" on the back ?!?!?!? :drink:

offshoredrillin 01-18-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LEOPAJM (Post 1997160)
"What can Brown do for you ?" on the back ?!?!?!? :drink:

then we could call you ricky bobby


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