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I have just found a possible replacement for the Apache that has a nice cabin and would fit the bill perfectly. To get there I need 175-180K out of the Apache. It has been listed at 199K and I have had lots of calls, but nothing serious yet. http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o14820-en.html Summer is half over, so something is going to happen either way pretty soon. If the Apache is still here after the season, I will cut it up and add the cabin and other stuff to it. It will involve a lot of work (moving bulkheads, moving fuel tanks, cutting and redoing the dash, etc...) and will probably cause us to lose a season, but it can be done. What do you guys think? In your opinion, will the boat move if I change all of the ads to 175-180 or am I wasting my time?

yes and no...

great price at 175k.... but the person buying a 175k boat might not be able to afford a big power #6 boat....

Price sells ! but most people are not happy unless they can chop the price alot.... They may not know what it's worth but they know they want it for alot less than someone is asking...

Out of my price range for now, but I always add wiggle room to whatever I sell, it just lets you give some and they get some and everybody feels they got a good deal. Great boat!!!!!!!!!!

I'm looking for something like your boat but with a nice cabin. I like your boat, but I'd have to do all the stuff you are talking about doing in the off season, and if I'm doing that much work, then the field is very much wide open on how to get there.

Not in sales for a living I hope! :D

Sale pricing can hurt you either way. Price to high and a real buyer may not think he/she can afford it and take the Maryland Mark approach and your lack of haggling may irritate the real buyer.

The boat is cool but a rare boat may need a even rarer buyer. The boat is probably tougher to finance due to the age and that it is a one off. Lenders may be ok to loan 175K on a used boat but if may have to be a newer, more common brand. Also if Warpath sold for less than 135K you may be priced a little high. Warpath has significant history and may have needed work but in the buyer's mind it was 40-50K cheaper than Apache Kid.

Did you call McManus/ Mark Adams about finding a buyer. They seem to be the Apache experts. I like the boat, saw it at Jacksonville PR last month. If I bought it, the new name would be Old School........

I did speak to Mark Adams about it back in like February when I first listed the boat. I had asked OSO for a fair market price back then in another thread and I didn't get a lot of response other than to call Mark Adams, so I called Mark figuring that he could give me a good ballpark. We talked for a while and he said that he would list the boat between 200 and 250K. That's why I started the OSO ad at 225. After some comments here on OSO I dropped the price to 199 a month or two later. It has been a while so maybe another call to Mark is in order.

Thank you all for the input.

You have a very sweet ride. I think the comment about needing a special buyer really hits the nail on the head. You really have to find someone that truely wants what you have and realizes that it is very rare. If you find that person they will have enough knowledge to know what the boat is worth to them and a rediculous low ball won't be an issue.

My 36' is in an entirely different/lesser league. But I had always wanted one and the asking price was close enough to what I was looking to spend that I figured it was worth speaking with the seller. After several discussions I got a feel for what the seller needed to get out of the boat and I determined that the boat was worth that to me.

Hopefully you can find someone that appreciates what you have for what it is.

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Reconfigure your Apache, it's one of a kind. It'll will still be one of a kind once it's changed. That is one sweet boat.

I think boat sales are only going to get worse as housing continues to tank and lenders continue to tighten their lending standards. ie. The price that sells the boat these days might be MUCH lower.

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IMO, lowering the price 10% will not make that much of a difference. If someone was real serious, they would make you an offer with the way its priced now.

I also agree that you have a small market of potential buyers. Financing may be difficult for many people due to the age of the boat and down payment that would be required.

Griff hit the nail on the head. Call if I can help!

Best of luck to you with the sale. It's an BADA$$ boat for sure.

all i can say is that is a killer set up , i remember when you posted the thread about having water tanks added to the trailer..

i would have to think you have way more in it than your asking price....

it will take the right person which seem to be few and far...

have the same problem with trying to sell my home , not many people want a "building" in the backyard...

it willl take that "right" person that want's it...or appreciates it..

i could lower the price so rock bottom and i still would be skecptical...been over a year....bites ,but no sale...

good luck , that is a truely bittchen apache!!!!:cool-smiley-011:

Thanks for all of the input guys. It looks like the answer is to leave it as is and let it ride until the end of summer.

Sorry Pal, that name is taken.:cool-smiley-027: :cool:

Since you have the coin to convert it - why the heck replace the Apache???!!! :confused:

Price has been chopped to $165,000 in the classifieds. http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o14820-en.html

I just can't get over the idea of putting another 60-100K in a boat that I already can't get 1/2 of my investment out of. Being able to swing the cost or not is irrelevant because either way you look at it, it is not a wise move. There are a few nice 41s listed that already have cabins. For 165K I can get into one of them and have an Apache already done with a cabin without the added investment that would be required to put a cabin in the 45. This way I could still be in an Apache (rather than the cruiser we were looking at when I started this thread) and keep everybody happy! A smaller boat will also let me sell the Peterbilt, which could really open up some options (Cigarette, Nor Tech, etc).

The ONLY 45 Apache ever built
 

All I can say guys is that I've ridden on the boat several times and it is an absolute wave crusher in any conditions. In the 2006 Ocean City race, I was in the boat when it was the paceboat. It was near storm conditions and the Apache just motored along effortlessly. Definitely one of the greatest rough water rides ever built.

Barry

Well it's still cheaper than building a new 47' Apache for 2 million !

Or as Carl with WarHawk said.......it was 1/2 the cost to completly redo the boat as opposed to building a new one and now it's good for another 15years.

It's boating vs. Passion :D Do the right thing and keep that bad boy and upgrade it to your likings.

Jon

You and Sacred Ground.....you guys are killing me :D

Here is a picture from that race. That was a good time! OC Barry is in the back, holding the flag.

Great Pic. Thats a good one to enlarge on mount on a wall.

I had experience with Mark Adams selling my Apache.

While I have no complaints, it turned out that his suggested price was more than double what the market would support. And that was more than 10 years ago.

He was not alone: Ralph Martin and McM told me the same thing. Well intentioned, but way too optimistic.



If he says $220,t he "right" number is probably more like $100

No offense, but true.

In today's market, I'd be very surprised if you will get $100K.

Better to keep it and make the changes you need., IMO.

It's not my money..but...You need to keep that boat !

What we do with these boats makes no sense anyway...LOL

not that I have any say in this, But there is alot of truth in the above coment. It is a beautiful boat and even if you do the change's there isn't anything out there like it and to me that is pricless. I can only dream of haveing what you have there. good luck to ya. very tough dission

See now with pictures like that if ya ever sold it ya would always be wishing ya had the Apache for days like that. :D

Jon

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