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el indio 06-01-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2877549)
Mark,,,are u going to be in Lauderdale next weekend ???
Or just down for the Bimini run ?

Scott

Would love to see your boat and meet u .:eek:

YO SCOTTSO. PICKING UP 41 AND HEADING NORTH. HOPE TO BE IN LI FOR THE SUMMER. NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL THESE APACHES IN FL. HA HA. BE IN SO FL SOON. BE IN TOUCH. MM.

gmhdfan 06-01-2009 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2877515)

What happened in Coco?

They had a little explosion under the floor.:eek: I'll let Pete explain.

Panther 06-01-2009 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2877541)
HI FRANK. TELL ME, WHEN YOU RAISED YOUR MOTORS DID THE HANDELING CHANGE. IF SO DO TELL. SEE YOU IN A FEW WEEKS. GETTING THE TRAILER ROAD READY AS WE SPEAK. MM.

Mark, all around the boat handles better. I ran Saturday in some 3-4' swells and the boat ran perfectly with a very level flying attitude. I can also run the trim a little more aggressive while still keeping the bow in check. Even on the ocean with drive in and tabs down further than in flat water it was cruising at 60-61 mph at 3600-3700 rpms. I ran from the tip of Sandy Hook down to Sea Bright at 4-4200 rpms (67-68 mph) into a south east swell and the boat handled phenominally!!!

Coming back home I rounded Sandy Hook and opened it up in the bay. With dead flat water and WOT for about 20-30 seconds the boat ran 87 mph, which is the fastest it's ever run. I also have the boost turned down so not only is it the fastest its ever run, it's running faster with less power! :drink:

Right now I'm just running box stock props, no tweaks.
I'm really happy with the project and I'm confident 90 is possible if I turned the boost back up and ran some better props. :cool:

After the test run I picked up the wife and baby and we went up river to relax. Obviously I had to run slower with the baby but we're still able to cruise a lovely 47 mph @ 3000 rpms! :)

DareDevil 06-01-2009 07:22 PM

MM & LUCY in " THE APACHE " LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46I5lYBIh5o

Comanche3Six 06-01-2009 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Sweet Addiction (Post 2877907)
That thing is Very NICE!!!!!

Absolutely!

el indio 06-01-2009 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2877942)
MM & LUCY in " THE APACHE " LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46I5lYBIh5o

SCOTT, CAN YOU SEE THE ATTITUDE OF THAT LIGHT BOAT IN FLAT WATER?

DareDevil 06-01-2009 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2877974)
SCOTT, CAN YOU SEE THE ATTITUDE OF THAT LIGHT BOAT IN FLAT WATER?

YEP,,,I LOVE IT .

SOLD TO DAREDEVIL,,,u only have to wait untill the check clear's . LOL:grinser010:

el indio 06-01-2009 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by TOASTY (Post 2875436)
keep pounding away this is great, MM get that little blonde another dye job. I am sure she is a great time though, always running with the throughbreds!!!

this is better then cable, keep hammering!!

My man, my man

CDC..

BETTER?

Comanche3Six 06-02-2009 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2868063)
too late my pal already called. NOT for SALE. O L says its going to be featured in their future adds. great sales tool. cant by good press like this. cya.

Typical lying nonsense, but by now what do you expect.

Cold War is for sale, Mike or Paul Fiore at Outerlimits will be happy to assist interested parties. 401-253-7300


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4jDxdO1Jx0

el indio 06-02-2009 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2878866)
Typical lying nonsense, but by now what do you expect.

Cold War is for sale, Mike or Paul Fiore at Outerlimits will be happy to assist interested parties.


YOU TOOK ME SERIOUSLY? GET REAL. SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP "LYING NONSENSE" IS MY SPECIALTY. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT BOAT. WHY WAS IT TRADED? AND WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SET UP SOME UNKNOWING SAP. LONELY? ARE YOU A BOAT OWNER OR SELLER?

Comanche3Six 06-02-2009 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2878876)
YOU TOOK ME SERIOUSLY? GET REAL. SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP "LYING NONSENSE" IS MY SPECIALTY. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT BOAT. WHY WAS IT TRADED? AND WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SET UP SOME UNKNOWING SAP. LONELY? ARE YOU A BOAT OWNER OR SELLER?

Interesting! You are like a modern day Grigori Efimovich Rasputin. Just dumber.

el indio 06-02-2009 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2879037)
Interesting! You are like a modern day Grigori Efimovich Rasputin. Just dumber.

MORE LIKE ROBIN HOOD.....

Comanche3Six 06-02-2009 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2879049)
MORE LIKE ROBIN HOOD.....

closer to Robbing Hood............. enough playtime with you......
Enjoy your powerboat.
Ed

el indio 06-02-2009 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2879081)
closer to Robbing Hood............. enough playtime with you......
Enjoy your powerboat.
Ed

COOL WHAT TIME TOMORROW?

dreamer 06-03-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2879049)
MORE LIKE ROBIN HOOD.....


give to the poor... u got the mom can i have one of the daughters?

DareDevil 06-03-2009 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2879929)
give to the poor... u got the mom can i have one of the daughters?

No u can't . I WAS FIRST ,,tell him Mark.

C-YA saturday.

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by dfealy (Post 2876048)
thats it, real nice ... so is the one from Plantation Marine.. Many nice Apaches out there...

http://www.dupontregistry.com/boats/...aspx?id=427400

Panther 06-04-2009 08:47 AM

$1.2M.... You better get that Brinks truck, you're gonna need it...

Way overpriced even at half price...

DareDevil 06-04-2009 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2880400)
$1.2M.... You better get that Brinks truck, you're gonna need it...

Way overpriced even at half price...

THEY ALL ARE !!!!!!!!!!

I still love them togh.:party-smiley-004:

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2880400)
$1.2M.... You better get that Brinks truck, you're gonna need it...

Way overpriced even at half price...

How is it possible that you know the value of this powerboat? Perhaps a call to the owner will enlighten you, rather than spouting off childish wild negative jealous comments like the you do. His phone number is in the ad.

DareDevil 06-04-2009 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2880415)
How is it possible that you know the value of this powerboat? Perhaps a call to the owner will enlighten you, rather than spouting off childish wild negative jealous comments like the you do. His phone number is in the ad.

Morning Ed,,i see u are up and full of power....lol



I think what he ment and i do at least ,,,is i think yes he has allot of money into it and its a one of a kind boat ,,but i would not spend 1.2 mil for a 47 APACHE unless i had like 100 mil in my bank ACC.
I also think the 41's used all of them are over priced ,,just because its an APACHE does not mean people can ask 150 + for a '80's boat,,,just my opinion,,,I DO LOVE THEM ,,,and oh sorry ,,they can ask it but i don't see anybody paying that much for them.

I still want one.:party-smiley-004:

Panther 06-04-2009 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2880415)
How is it possible that you know the value of this powerboat? Perhaps a call to the owner will enlighten you, rather than spouting off childish wild negative jealous comments like the you do. His phone number is in the ad.

Ed, it's the truth, you see it as bashing. For a moment, stop seeing the Apache world thru rose colored glasses and it will all make sense. Unless the bildge is lined with Gold it's not worth $1.2m It's mainly plastic and steel, nothing more.

It's a beautiful boat and the workmanship is phonomenal but it ain't worth $1.2m.:party-smiley-004:

Sorry you see that as negative, it's just reality.
http://www.apachepowerboats.com/videos.php

el indio 06-04-2009 09:25 AM

They Are Worth What You Can Get For Them. Cheaper To Buy Together And Running Then Do A Re Rigg. Mf Bought Crazyhorse In Great Shape Because He Didnt Want To Re Rigg Jester.to Much Stress. He Has Figured It To Be Better After Doing It Every Which Way. And I Mean Everyway. MM.

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2880420)
Morning Ed,,i see u are up and full of power....lol



I think what he ment and i do at least ,,,is i think yes he has allot of money into it and its a one of a kind boat ,,but i would not spend 1.2 mil for a 47 APACHE unless i had like 100 mil in my bank ACC.
I also think the 41's used all of them are over priced ,,just because its an APACHE does not mean people can ask 150 + for a '80's boat,,,just my opinion,,,I DO LOVE THEM ,,,and oh sorry ,,they can ask it but i don't see anybody paying that much for them.

I still want one.:party-smiley-004:

Good Morning Scott
The offshore powerboat market is soft, and Apache Powerboats are not inexpensive. Don't expect a fire sale, most of the owners that offer their Apache Powerboats for sale are financially solvent. And not subject to much price flexability. And certainly intolerant of assinine know it all comments (Panther) concerning the value their Apache. And yes, they are very desireable offshore powerboats.
Ed

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2880433)
Ed, it's the truth, you see it as bashing. For a moment, stop seeing the Apache world thru rose colored glasses and it will all make sense. Unless the bildge is lined with Gold it's not worth $1.2m It's mainly plastic and steel, nothing more.

It's a beautiful boat and the workmanship is phonomenal but it ain't worth $1.2m.:party-smiley-004:

Sorry you see that as negative, it's just reality.
http://www.apachepowerboats.com/videos.php

Try and duplicate it for what you say it is worth. That will educate you real quick as to it's value!

el indio 06-04-2009 09:58 AM

Paleface $299,000.00. Fresh, Mean, Lean And Clean.

Oso Classifieds.

Panther 06-04-2009 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2880458)
Try and duplicate it for what you say it is worth? That will educate you real quick as to their value!

Replacement (duplication) value and retail value have nothing to do with each other.... If you can find me a buyer who will buy my rig for duplication value I'll gladly sell it to them and give you a hefty commission.

Sorry man but education isn't needed for common sense. :lolhit:

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2880471)
Replacement (duplication) value and retail value have nothing to do with each other.... If you can find me a buyer who will buy my rig for duplication value I'll gladly sell it to them and give you a hefty commission.

Sorry man but education isn't needed for common sense. :lolhit:

The price you see in the ad for Spirit of Apache is retail value, duplication value is quite a bit more. Plus he includes that beautiful truck $$, plus extra complete 1300 hp engine $$$, plus trailer $. That is a tremendous amount of $$$$$$$$ invested. So 1.2 million is not unreasonable. Just for most average Joe Powerboaters financially unobtainable.
Another thing that I find interesting is when someone can't afford something, why is it immediately too expensive and not worth half the asking price?

Panther 06-04-2009 10:20 AM

We shall have to wait and see what she sells for. ;)

BTW, my buddy just bought a $1M boat for less than $1/2M... Boats are depreciating assets, not investments.

Maybe one of the Arab Sheiks will buy it.

Best of luck to you marketing it for MM!

el indio 06-04-2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2880458)
Try and duplicate it for what you say it is worth. That will educate you real quick as to it's value!

RIGHT ON. OUTTER LIMITS HAS A HULL START THERE. MM.

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2880491)
RIGHT ON. OUTTER LIMITS HAS A HULL START THERE. MM.

Very astute! LOL!

Panther 06-04-2009 10:44 AM

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Ed, your commission is waiting. I'll pay 10%, that should be enough for you to put yours back together.. Just so your potential customers are properly "educated", I have a book of receipts awaiting.

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 11:39 AM

I just might open up a used powerboat sales office, but only if El Indio comes onboard as the sales manager. I don't think they have seen the "Miami Shuffle" in NJ yet. LOL! Anyway, my Comanche is together, just not the way I want it. Different power, drives, hatch (that's one down), etc $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And away we go!

el indio 06-04-2009 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2880544)
I just might open up a used powerboat sales office, but only if El Indio comes onboard as the sales manager. I don't think they have seen the "Miami Shuffle" in NJ yet. LOL! Anyway, my Comanche is together, just not the way I want it. Different power, drives, hatch (that's one down), etc $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And away we go!

GOOD CALL ED. THIS IS A TOUGH HOBBY. AS A BOATER I TRY TO HELP FELLOW HOBIESTS. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH HELL TO GET HERE AND WANT TO MAYBE HELP 1 BOATER [OR MORE] STAY. MOST OF THE BIG BUCK GUYS DONT LAST TOO LONG. THE 47 FOUNTAIN GUY WHO DUMPED 5 MILLION INTO BUYING APACE DIDNT LAST REAL LONG.[NOT ONE BOAT]. 4 YEARS IS ABOUT IT FOR MOST. BUY NEW RUN A FEW YEARS BRINGEM IN FOR REPOWER..GET THE PRICE TO REPOWER.....DELUXE DETAIL SELLEM AS READY TO GO. SUCKS... MM.

dreamer 06-04-2009 01:52 PM

real world pricing

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...Manus-94922299

Panther 06-04-2009 03:56 PM

That's a good deal and it's local.. Ed, go pick it up!

Drives look far apart. Anyone know how the boat was re-rigged from 3 engines down to 2? Was the center engine taken out and hole filled or completely re-rigged with new transom?

dreamer 06-04-2009 04:29 PM

went from 3 to 2

it must be a scam scince a mcmanus 28 ir worth 200k!!!!!!!!!!!

Comanche3Six 06-04-2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2880491)
RIGHT ON. OUTTER LIMITS HAS A HULL START THERE. MM.

El Indio
Let's spend some money! Help me price it out.
Exclude the asking price for Cold War in it's derigged condition. Begin,
3 professionally built engines exhaust included- at least 1200 HP....price?
3 probably SCS shiftable gear boxes...price?
3 VISSM drives & transom assemblies....price?
Bolsters........price?
Myco trailer.......price?
Professional Custom rigger, who do you suggest..price?
What else?
Ed

el indio 06-04-2009 06:14 PM

Start With 3 Oem Merc 1075 Pkgs.[or Whatever Their Big Pkge Is]. Then Buy 3 Chiefs For Running. Use The Mercs For Spares.[will Be Needed].send Boat To Marine Shop Inc. Ask Jimmy To Call Me When Its Ready I Will Be Back At My Shop Doing My Job While Jim Does His. If Money Is Limited Dont By This Commitment. M.M.


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