later

were did it go was all over the oso few years back now no a word.

later

sean stinson

In North Carolina

Baja555

someone ruined it by converting it to a twin engine setup just like they did to little ceaser

Hot Duck

The boat was converted to a twin setup before I owned it, but I can tell you that the conversion did not hurt that boat at all. I had twin 1000s in it and it still ran in the upper 80's and handled perfectly.

I traded the boat to Fastboats. From there it went to North Carolina. I saw it for sale again shortly after that, but I don't know if it sold or not or where it is now.

Baja555

thats too heavy of a boat for twins. unless maybe for 1500's.. the boat ran 100 + w/ tripps. I was in the boat when Scott had it new as RDS and Alan Feingold as Apache Kid.. It's only my opinion but I think it is a sin to see both RDS and Little Ceasars converted to twins.. they were awesome boats for their time , and could still hold their own in the right conditions . If you have the money to feed 3 motors.

Hot Duck

There was a time when I would agree with you, but when I first got the boat and took it to Tres Martin to have it done he talked me out of converting it back to a triple setup. I was going to go back to triples, but he explained to me that horsepower is horsepower. The boat will run the same speed or better with twin 1200s as it will with triple 800s. In this example 2400 horsepower is 2400 horsepower no matter how you cut it, but with three engines instead of two you will burn nearly 50% more fuel which means that you need to carry more to go the same distance as twins (more weight), you have 50% more maintenance with the third engine and you are always carrying the extra weight of the third engine. Tres also explained that back in the late 80s you did not have the "reliable" big horsepower engines like we have now so to get to that kind of total horsepower they had to run three engines. When Tres explaind these things to me I decided to take his word for it and stick with twins. I figured he knew what he was talking about because he raced agains this boat in Little Caesars and has spent a lot of time with these big Apaches.

I have no doubt that the boat was faster when it was new, but that was simply because it had more horsepower. Back then the boat had triple 850s, so that would be a total of 2550hp versus the 2000 that I was running. I would think that it would be the extra 550hp and some other minor things set up for racing vs pleasure boating that would make the 10mph or so speed difference. With an equal amount of power I have no doubt that the boat would still run over 100mph today, but when I took the boat to Tres I simply told him that I wanted a nice pleasure boat that would run better than 80mph, so that is what he did.

Baja555

I understand where you are coming from..

Tres

Not only that, I didnt see that it would be smart to have my customer spend more money than the boat was worth to convert it back and he would never get that money back when he sold it.

Catmando

Also a good point...

Tres I saw a Marauder that went to Luca Fendi in Italy and it had trips with two motors in front. Did Braver do that because of CG issues or what?

offshoredrillin

and there ya have it. When looking at any of these older race/pleasure boats, liken it to finding a classic muscle car, say a 70 Chevelle SS LS6, you are going to have to go through it from top to bottom and make everything right or pay the money to buy one done. Either way it is going to cost a good amount of coin to do it right, in the end if you are redoing one for the love of redoing it, it is priceless, if you're doing it to flip it, be prepared to own it until the right buyer comes along.