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Keytime 01-24-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3599338)
In the rough water season I agree.

In any season! But I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down. :)

SS930 01-24-2012 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Downtown42 (Post 3600485)
ooopss...you are correct !!!! :drink:

;)

Comanche3Six 01-24-2012 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Keytime (Post 3600522)
In any season! But I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down. :)

Apache Powerboats were designed to run in the rough stuff, and lets face it this guy Yves did just that with Razz. That does not seem popular anymore, maybe even avoided (AC 2010). Well, what are you gonna do?
Apache is still the best in rough seas, at least in my book.

thisistank 01-24-2012 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3600641)
Apache Powerboats were designed to run in the rough stuff, and lets face it this guy Yves did just that with Razz. That does not seem popular anymore, maybe even avoided (AC 2010). Well, what are you gonna do?
Apache is still the best in rough seas, at least in my book.

I was talking about this on another website (Riverdavesplace) and of course the question comes up about new boats compared to old ones, new technology, etc. and which new boats would handle a beating like this.

The bottom line answer to that question is, "who knows". Because (as far as I have seen), there hasn't been a video put out of a newer boat (post 2000 lets say), where the owner went out during a hurricane swell (that's the back story on those swells) and intended to beat the boat like it owed money! Sure, there's footage of OL and Cig and others getting busy in some slop or some race footage of boats airing it out in some big water, but who really says anymore, "It's Saturday, there's a huge swell coming in, lets go out and go punish the boat!"? Answer? no one.

TexomaPowerboater 01-24-2012 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3600674)
but who really says anymore, "It's Saturday, there's a huge swell coming in, lets go out and go punish the boat!"? Answer? no one.

I do, albeit not in the ocean. I've got a couple of boats. I take the apache out when it gets too windy for the others. That was the whole purpose of buying it................so I don't get stuck on the shore when the wind kicks up.

Comanche3Six 01-24-2012 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3600674)
I was talking about this on another website (Riverdavesplace) and of course the question comes up about new boats compared to old ones, new technology, etc. and which new boats would handle a beating like this.

The bottom line answer to that question is, "who knows". Because (as far as I have seen), there hasn't been a video put out of a newer boat (post 2000 lets say), where the owner went out during a hurricane swell (that's the back story on those swells) and intendore racing ed to beat the boat like it owed money! Sure, there's footage of OL and Cig and others getting busy in some slop or some race footage of boats airing it out in some big water, but who really says anymore, "It's Saturday, there's a huge swell coming in, lets go out and go punish the boat!"? Answer? no one.

Open Ocean Racing is a demanding, dangerous sport. Especially in those AC 2010 type conditions. Yes Dangerous! And that's what made Offshore Racing exciting & alluring. That's what attracted guys like Aronow & Kramer. If it was safe, they wouldn't do it. Sounds crazy, but it's true. The real Alpha males love the danger! That's where rough water comes into the equation, it's exciting as hell to watch Offshore Powerboats running in it. Again, I have got to give this guy Yves a ton of credit. He let's it rip!

POWERPLAY J 01-24-2012 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3600674)
I was talking about this on another website (Riverdavesplace) and of course the question comes up about new boats compared to old ones, new technology, etc. and which new boats would handle a beating like this.

The bottom line answer to that question is, "who knows". Because (as far as I have seen), there hasn't been a video put out of a newer boat (post 2000 lets say), where the owner went out during a hurricane swell (that's the back story on those swells) and intended to beat the boat like it owed money! Sure, there's footage of OL and Cig and others getting busy in some slop or some race footage of boats airing it out in some big water, but who really says anymore, "It's Saturday, there's a huge swell coming in, lets go out and go punish the boat!"? Answer? no one.

I do. It's all about the adrenaline. I run my sh!t !!! I do know two others like me...

Comanche3Six 01-24-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3600732)
I do. It's all about the adrenaline. I run my sh!t !!! I do know two others like me...

Parnell? From what I hear, he likes rough water! LOL!

thisistank 01-24-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3600732)
I do. It's all about the adrenaline. I run my sh!t !!! I do know two others like me...

I ran my cig hard and loved it. Sh!t, there's video of us flyin that thing 8' up multiple times. I've run it in true 10'+ seas and have the pics to prove it.

But I think you're missing my point...show me video of someone out running their (newer/non race boat) in water like that and punishing their boat that hard....you can't.

POWERPLAY J 01-24-2012 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3600737)
I ran my cig hard and loved it. Sh!t, there's video of us flyin that thing 8' up multiple times. I've run it in true 10'+ seas and have the pics to prove it.

But I think you're missing my point...show me video of someone out running their (newer/non race boat) in water like that and punishing their boat that hard....you can't.

I got it. I agree with you also. To be honest if I had the loot for a new Cig I'd run the snot out of it in the biggest water I could find.


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