Stillwaters 41
 

What do you guys know about this boat.
Specs say 11000 pounds is that possible with a pleasure

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Here are the specs on the motors

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Any room for blower motors will they fit

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And the drives?

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What ever you guys can tell me about it would be great I am interested in it, I like the center steer but unsure about the motors or drives.

Only thing I know is I want it! To me it's the best setup to have, full pleasure staggered, beautiful cabin and full cockpit looks great to me.

Does that build sheet say the valves need to be adjusted every 10 hours?!?!?!? Is that normal for engines like that?

Thanks for picking that out i will ask.

That's the best all around performer you could ask for from Apache in a pleasure config.....and yes you should run the valves every 10-20 hrs

Saw the boat a few years ago in Sandusky when a buddy was considering, was in real good shape, very cool boat!! hope its still as nice.....good luck!

depending on the access, having to adjust the valves that often would kill it for me. Even being a mechanic who can do that type thing myself, that would be a PITA to do on most boats I have ever seen.

the acess 2 the front motor is tough. third of the front motor is under rear seat.

the motors r mounted low. 4s r obsolete need 6s. i made an offer tues based on putting 6s on her..dont think they will take it..if u blowup a 4 u r out of biz..cya..

Not necessarily, on the "if u blowup a #4 u r out of biz". I have new upper gear sets and new "big" propshafts for the #4 drives. There are still a lot of used parts still out there for the #4. I, personally would not be afraid of a boat with #4's on it. Also, in my opinion, #6's would, granted, make the drives "bullet proof" but they are considerably heavier than the #4 and add the additional expense of a #6 drive and the ultra high priced #6 gimbal. Just my .02 for what its worth. Sorry for disagreeing with you Mark.

Specs say 11000 pounds is that possible with a pleasure.

Seems light but all you have to do is take it to the scale at a truck stop...

Desert Warrior basically the same boat with 6's weighed in at 14590 lbs

as u said used parts..u know anyone who will guarentee the rebuild with used parts? not cheap..might be why mine had 3 stes of drives..ask dr gary...the housing r old and alumn..

kevlar hull carbon fibre deck..

If you put #6's on that boat you are going to have to move the engines, and redo the transom as well.

Arneson Surface Drives
would surely make it bullet proof plus take weight off the transom use less power, it's going to be interesting seeing how the few Apaches run with those drives

So far the INXS 47' Runs Great as well as the 42' Chief which runs exceptionally well.

Just make sure they get rid of the notch in the transom first....That way you can get the Arnesons all the way to the bottom

Hey Sean... check out this pic... I always wondered how this set up worked out. If that boat did a re-enter ass down.. you would think the transom would rip out right? The notch is in the boat and the surface drives are hangin out past the transom.

You're getting the itch already?

that boat wont do it 4 me..the last 41 that sold was mine..3and half years ago..how have u been?

#4 drives
 

Mark,
Yes it was Scott Rutherford and I that stayed in your condo and had a wonderful ride in the Apache.
Gary

Looking at the steering rams dont look like it turns much.
Am i missing anything? Thanks Eric

I wouldn't think it would run real well especially in any type of rough stuff because you couldn't keep it hooked up.....Rik and I have had this conversation a few times in the past and NO NOTCH is the way to go!!!

looking at another 41 with 6s..u wont have 2 travel to far 2 go 4 a ride..only 2 fond du lac..we r the mercury hometown dealer..7 time CSI award winner..hope al is well with u..

Technically for a full Stagger but for a standard side by side or even a short stagger could use a filler panel only where the drives are mounted so that they mount correctly.

When you say filler panel do you mean a panel that is bolted in place of the notch or is the panel glassed in. Do you have any pics of how the panel is filled in. I would just like to see how involved it is and if the integrity of the transom is compromised. Just trying to picture it. Thanks

Basically, the Arnesons are "X" inches wide and will need to be placed on the transom at "Y" location. The area which would extend below the actual transom and extend into the notched are would need to be filled in so that the drive does not hang in the water so to speak. The entire notched transom therefore would not need to be filled, just this area. On a lot of boats this is only 3-4" tall and 14" wide but every boat manufacturer made a different notch and it depends upon which Arneson is being used. Not saying a full transom is not good, just that it is a bit easier for most to address the area rather than the entire notch.

Don't have access to photos at this moment.