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Apache 41
Have you guys seen this ad? http://www.custommarinesales.com/cla...page=out&id=15
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Beautiful, and it most likely did just have $500,000 sunk into it but sad reality is, with the newer stuff out there and the prices of the new technology getting so low, that boat will never see the north side of $150k, Unless the drives and engines were 1075/6 packages.
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 3958209)
Beautiful, and it most likely did just have $500,000 sunk into it but sad reality is, with the newer stuff out there and the prices of the new technology getting so low, that boat will never see the north side of $150k, Unless the drives and engines were 1075/6 packages.
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Most of the apache guys don't care if they ever sell the boats, they just leave them on the market at the high dollar amount encase somebody comes along and wants to pay the premium. Or atleast that's what it seems like..
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Someone looking for a deal on a boat will not pay anything over wholesale these days.
However, an Enthusiast will pay premiums for things they want. It's a delicate balance |
Great looking 41 side by side,,,,,Price?
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no price in the add - .like they say......"if you have to ask , you probably can't afford it."
Beautiful boat - i'll be buying a powerball ticket |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 3958218)
Most of the apache guys don't care if they ever sell the boats, they just leave them on the market at the high dollar amount encase somebody comes along and wants to pay the premium. Or atleast that's what it seems like..
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Hard to justify when anybody could've bought Clifford for under 200k. I love Apaches and dream to own a 41 but I always get a good laugh when I browse the classifieds.
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you guy are right they are not worth the big money any more you could not even get $85,000 for one turn key i have three two are for sale one for $125 race setup an one side by side setup for $85,000 cant even get close to that some one offerd me $90,000 for the race one had to turn it down i Owen all my boat's so i dont need to sell them. the ones on line are just people trying to see if they get anyone to bit on them.and to keep the apache ads full all the time
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While almost everyone knows you can dump more into these Apache Powerboats than you could ever hope to retrieve by selling (even if you do the work yourself). The fact remains (And will be argued till the end of time it seems) these Apache Powerboats are safe, seawothy, high in build quality, and will blast through nasty water for decades. That is why they are popular and respected by knowledgeable powerboaters in places where (quick changing) rough sea conditions exist. The Great Lakes, and of course the New Jersey coast line are examples. A side note; getting upside down $ in a powerboat is as easy as slipping on a wet boat deck. Tread cautiously.
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Very few Apaches, especially the older 3 and 6 man race setups, were built which gives it its notoriety. There are just as many buyers of apaches as apaches built. If one was in the market for one, there are not many in supply. Classic supply and demand. While the demand may not be high for the majority, the demand is high for the few. As one can see, fountains, skaters, etc are a dime a dozen. Its like an old 54 chevy compared to a maserati. I bet the 54 chevy will have more admirers. That is what we see at the docs at the races. Our old 86 3pack 41 sitting next to a 40 skater always gets more attention. Just depends on what you want. I grew up in the 80's so I can appreciate the old school
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Here's what I think has happened.
When big power #6 Twin step (new technology) boats first started coming out and becoming more popular (say early mid 2000's) the prices were over the $600k range and higher. So, if somebody was looking for a #6 boat in the $2-300k range basically their only option was buy an old Apache that had been converted. Well fast forward 10 years and those 3/4 million $ boats are now selling at $100-200k. Now buyers have other options and options that banks will loan $ on. |
Im not sure if I would recommend anyone getting a loan on a high dollar boat. Remember, the purchase is the cheapest part. Our biggest expense has been gas:(
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 3959708)
Here's what I think has happened.
When big power #6 Twin step (new technology) boats first started coming out and becoming more popular (say early mid 2000's) the prices were over the $600k range and higher. So, if somebody was looking for a #6 boat in the $2-300k range basically their only option was buy an old Apache that had been converted. Well fast forward 10 years and those 3/4 million $ boats are now selling at $100-200k. Now buyers have other options and options that banks will loan $ on. So with that being said, I recommend anyone looking specifically for an Apache give the owners a call and talk to them seriously. Just as you did 302Sport when you approached myself and Brett about your 42' Cig. We don't necessarily want to sell our Apache's to people looking for a fire sale. However, if you're timing is right and the cash is available you might just have a deal. So why not call and if you like what you see, make an offer at what "you" think it's worth. At the end of the day all they can say is no. If they get pissed the F'em but if you really want the boat, make an offer, you may just surprise yourself and actually have to pay up. On my 36' the sale was complicated and had to be right for the both of us and we met in the middle because I had the cash ready to go. Mind you the boat sat for sale for a LONG time before I came along. Even on my last Scout purchase the owner was very particular about WHO the boat was sold to and less concerned WHAT the boat sold for. If he didn't like me or didn't like my plan for the boat, I wouldn't own it right now. My $.02 and experience with Apache's. |
Well stated, Panther!
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