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Doors & interior
1996 3-225 promaxs,
Yes, Awesome with 3 outboards. Running arounds 85mph & great on gas. Love this boat. Nothing like flying over waves without slowing down. If only I had a place to put the coffee. I am looking at redoing the interior & installing 2 new doors. Who is doing the interiors ? (anybody good?) Where do I find the doors for the cabin ? Thanks Jeff |
i got a couple great interior guys,mcleoud did them before you could try him or depending where your at i got a couple numbers,as for doors original were made by teak interiors in fla.but they no longer have the mold as i need doors my self but i found a company in detroit thatll make them.
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doors
If your getting doors made,
Let me know, I would need 2 made. Let me know how much & I will send the cash Thanks Jeff Interior, Who's the best. I realy don't want to redo again, |
Originally Posted by STV92
(Post 2964206)
If your getting doors made,
Let me know, I would need 2 made. Let me know how much & I will send the cash Thanks Jeff Interior, Who's the best. I realy don't want to redo again, |
Jeff, There were not to many Awesomes with O/B's did this have originally red gel coat, If it is I now some history of the boat.
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jeff what state are you in?if your local there is this guy named willy in port huron thatll blow away anyone on quality,he's been doing them for years,he's currently doing the interior on convertible top for the new camero,if general motors relies on him hes that good,ive seen a lot of motorcycle seats and custom interiors by him and wow.not sure on his prices but ive been told by customers of his that he's not that bad.send me a p.m and when i get the mold for my doors ill contact you and email ya some pics,ill be meeting with them in 2 weeks to go over designs for the doors and a windshield.
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Interior retro
Contact PPI interiors in sarasota
Do you have their phone number? RED Gel:x3 outboards. Yes, this is the one. I think we talked a few years ago when I bought the Pennzoil. (shadowCat) After looking at all the work, I bought the AwesomeCat. It's still red Gel, but the Gel has been redone & new graphics. Was told she would not run, but I have proved them wrong. Running 3-225 promaxs turning 26+28 in the middle. Turing 6500-6800. Running about 80-85mph, which has been great. (gas with the promax is great). Next move will be to replace the promaxs & run 3-300 xs motors. I think it will run 100, with 3 bigger motors & they are still great on gas. Best part is that she will run top end, in any condition. (great with traffic & waves!) But, she needs rough water to run top end. Calm water, well it's cruising time. I can not figure out how to posted pics, but I can e-mail some if someone can post them. Talk to you soon, Jeff |
I remember, do you still have the old pennzoil shadow ?
Your new boat was a friends does it still have the 24" old style tube gill brackets on it ? That is a heavy hull it needs heavy water to get her on top to fly. Tripple 300's will be great on that boat , they have alot more torque for the bigger hulls than the 2.5 225 PM's . What year 225's our they, I have a customer that might be intrested in them when you go with the 300's. PPI number is (941) 752-6271 talk to Jim Cowan tell him sparky @ Vicious told ya to call. Give me a call sometime my shop number in South Carolina is (803) 944-3596. Sparky |
does it still have the 24" old style tube gill brackets on it ?
Someone must have changed them. All three have 24"set back, on Stainless Marine brackets. But, they look beefy & probably heavy. Promax's are 96s. (I think?) If you know someone with 3 300 xs, I may sell? Keep me posted. Jeff Talk to you soon, Jeff |
Originally Posted by STV92
(Post 2966647)
does it still have the 24" old style tube gill brackets on it ?
Someone must have changed them. All three have 24"set back, on Stainless Marine brackets. But, they look beefy & probably heavy. Promax's are 96s. (I think?) If you know someone with 3 300 xs, I may sell? Keep me posted. Jeff Talk to you soon, Jeff Do still have the shadow ? |
Sparky, let's check your memory:party-smiley-004:
My AwesomeCat has x3 gas tanks. Now, best place is one in each tunnel. The third tank runs under the back seat (side to side). Third tank under the seat runs the middle motor. Well, what do think it does on a hard right turn? Runs the fuel onto the left hand side of the tank:lolhit: Hard right turns, center motor runs out of gas. Who designed this, talk about stupid. May change & run a splash tank & only fill 2 tanks. It's great to run 3 motor & 3 tanks, but at a 1/4 tank, the middle has problems when turning. (pain!) Any thoughts? Note: each tank is 80gallons. |
80 gallon tanks in the sponsons. Hmmmmm. Mine has 60 gallon units. Sparky: Was there quite a selection of gas tank sizes used in the Awesome builds (31 models) over the years?
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Originally Posted by STV92
(Post 2968358)
Sparky, let's check your memory:party-smiley-004:
My AwesomeCat has x3 gas tanks. Now, best place is one in each tunnel. The third tank runs under the back seat (side to side). Third tank under the seat runs the middle motor. Well, what do think it does on a hard right turn? Runs the fuel onto the left hand side of the tank:lolhit: Hard right turns, center motor runs out of gas. Who designed this, talk about stupid. May change & run a splash tank & only fill 2 tanks. It's great to run 3 motor & 3 tanks, but at a 1/4 tank, the middle has problems when turning. (pain!) Any thoughts? Note: each tank is 80gallons. |
Originally Posted by ROTAX454
(Post 2968546)
80 gallon tanks in the sponsons. Hmmmmm. Mine has 60 gallon units. Sparky: Was there quite a selection of gas tank sizes used in the Awesome builds (31 models) over the years?
Richard, As far as I know this was the only factory built 31' with outboards built to be a race boat for Ed Terakien . It had trip 2.4's and never was quit set up right. If I remember right the best speed back in the day was 77mph. So it sounds like with the last half dozen owners the set up has been getting closer ! I just cant believe klem put a 80 gal. tank on top of the tunnel. I guess after seeing some of his set up's I guess I could believe it!!!!!:eek: |
Nice to know I'm on the right track.
The tank on top of the tunnel, under the back seat was not a good move. When the gas slashs from side to side, it dumps the air out of the tunnels. Weird, because it will lean out on the turns. Over 3/4 full, it runs much better, but makes alot of weight. If I run only 2 tanks, do you think it would stop dumping air on turns? To remove the center tank, I would have to remove the back seat & the framing & fire wall!, would be a hell of a job to remove. alot of cutting & fiberglass work. May just empty the tank & leave it in. Keep you posted as winter is on it's way (sucks!) Set up: Since I got it (before it had 2.4) & seems they did not turn rpms, 2.5 efi seems much better. I have removed the bottom pick-ups & installed transom pick ups. (This has helped water pressure very much) The 2 outside run transom pick-ups & LW pick-ups off the lower. The center motor which has run great from the start does not have transom pick-ups & only runs on the lower unit. Since then, I have not had any trouble with water pressure. Raised them very high & brought them down a little. Set up is getting close. Now, lets change the motors & do it all over again. Things we do for more speed. But, all I can say, is the 225 promax are great motors. Almost hate to start over again, but hell that's what boys do. Looking forward to summer again. Any added bonus by turns the props in? Jeff |
Originally Posted by STV92
(Post 2968988)
Nice to know I'm on the right track.
The tank on top of the tunnel, under the back seat was not a good move. When the gas slashs from side to side, it dumps the air out of the tunnels. Weird, because it will lean out on the turns. Over 3/4 full, it runs much better, but makes alot of weight. If I run only 2 tanks, do you think it would stop dumping air on turns? To remove the center tank, I would have to remove the back seat & the framing & fire wall!, would be a hell of a job to remove. alot of cutting & fiberglass work. May just empty the tank & leave it in. Keep you posted as winter is on it's way (sucks!) Set up: Since I got it (before it had 2.4) & seems they did not turn rpms, 2.5 efi seems much better. I have removed the bottom pick-ups & installed transom pick ups. (This has helped water pressure very much) The 2 outside run transom pick-ups & LW pick-ups off the lower. The center motor which has run great from the start does not have transom pick-ups & only runs on the lower unit. Since then, I have not had any trouble with water pressure. Raised them very high & brought them down a little. Set up is getting close. Now, lets change the motors & do it all over again. Things we do for more speed. But, all I can say, is the 225 promax are great motors. Almost hate to start over again, but hell that's what boys do. Looking forward to summer again. Any added bonus by turns the props in? Jeff You should be able to cut the engine bulkhead behind the seat and pull that tank out towards the transom. |
Originally Posted by ViciousOne
(Post 2968825)
Richard, As far as I know this was the only factory built 31' with outboards built to be a race boat for Ed Terakien . It had trip 2.4's and never was quit set up right. If I remember right the best speed back in the day was 77mph. So it sounds like with the last half dozen owners the set up has been getting closer ! I just cant believe klem put a 80 gal. tank on top of the tunnel. I guess after seeing some of his set up's I guess I could believe it!!!!!:eek:
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Originally Posted by ROTAX454
(Post 2969513)
Thanks for the information Sparky. Interesting info about the OB Awesome. Does not surprise me about the Kleim design standards------or lack of.
Over the last 10 years I have really become an O/B fan, since I built the first Vicious in 1998 and powered it with 300 Promax's . That boat would run 108-109 all the time with two people and 3/4 tanks of fuel. As soon as the new building is finished down hear I am starting a new hull that has a wider tunnel and a little less rocker in the bottom. I am going to power it with O/B's and race it for a season in OPA & SBI to dial in the bottom and then pull a fresh mold. |
You should be able to cut the engine bulkhead behind the seat and pull that tank out towards the transom.
I agree, that will be the best way of getting it out. Do you kwon if tanks were glassed in or just foamed around. Really do not want to take out the back seat. But, if it comes out the back, that would be an easy fix. Tunnel tabs. I remember the ShadowCat had 3 motors but also had a tunnel tab between the 2 tunnels, but the tabs did not pass the transom? I never could understand why Nick did that ? I think it was to push more water to the center, but now sure. Have a great week-end Jeff |
Originally Posted by STV92
(Post 2969798)
You should be able to cut the engine bulkhead behind the seat and pull that tank out towards the transom.
I agree, that will be the best way of getting it out. Do you kwon if tanks were glassed in or just foamed around. Really do not want to take out the back seat. But, if it comes out the back, that would be an easy fix. Tunnel tabs. I remember the ShadowCat had 3 motors but also had a tunnel tab between the 2 tunnels, but the tabs did not pass the transom? I never could understand why Nick did that ? I think it was to push more water to the center, but now sure. Have a great week-end Jeff Did you get rid of the shadow, do you have any pics of the tab in the tunnel of the shadow were they flate with the tunnel or were they concaved into it ? They did that on the Doug Wright cats . What it does is trap air in the tunnel to help lift the boat. |
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[QUOTE=ViciousOne;2969668]Richard, how is the tunnel tab project comming along ? QUOTE]
Sparky, On the back burner. Right now just trying to clean up the hull with some recent mods. Thru-hull water pick-ups are gone. Replaced with Teague's new Transom water pick-ups. I had to also relocate the bilge drain fittings. So I am in the process of having Dave plug the hull and transom holes left in the mod process. Still have the tab on my "to do" list. I like you idea of a wider cat project. Perhaps some extra length and I/O version too? Richard |
Rotex454,
I did the same thing with mine. I had bottom pick ups & replaced them with transom pick ups. It has solved my water pressure problems & I think they provide less drag. Mine is for outboards but helped alot. ShadowCat has been sold. The only thing good on the boat was the bottom & I don't know how long that would last. Was a great project, but probably cheaper to build a new one. On another note: I noticed that my AwesomeCat has a different dash layout then any other one out there? Sorry to say, but I like mine more then the others:party-smiley-004: Only problem: no storage not even a drink holder? How can you build a 31ft cat for 6 people & not even put in a cup holder? I think I will install some over the winter. Somebody send me an e-mail address & I will send pics to post. This boat was painted Mercury colors including the seats & interior. (looks pretty cool) |
I fully realize the lack of storage in the cockpit area. This has been discussed on previous posts in the Awesome and AO threads. This winter I am planning to add storage and drink holders to the sides of the cockpit liner. I will post some of the manufacturers websites that have this type of product.
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http://www.ssicustomplastics.com/coaming.htm
This looked like a good place & pricing for what we need. |
Anybody know where I can find wind deflectors & what size do you have ?
I have a deal on 2 but they are only 13" wide. Not sure if it's enough? Thanks |
[QUOTE=STV92;2988780]Anybody know where I can find wind deflectors & what size do you have ?
I have a deal on 2 but they are only 13" wide. Not sure if it's enough? Thanks[/QUOTE My buddy has two 12" wide deflectors on his 25' Talon that runs just over a 100mph and they work great, I would say go with the two you have and call it a day. The factory Awesome deflector ain't worth a crap. |
I agree, I'm hunting down the seller.
They are 17 1/2 wide for 100 bucks, with mounting bracets.:evilb: I think thats a deal |
The factory Awesome deflector ain't worth a crap.[/QUOTE]
Sparky, Agreed on the factory crap. How about using the same mounting surface on the race fairing. Instead of using a straight piece of plexiglas (like the factory), bend at the top edge of the race fairing so the exposed surface is about 15 degree's back from 0 degree's (straight up). Sorta like the Cigarette folks do with their race fairing windscreen. |
Richard, All you can do is give it a try, my buddy had a 115 mph A O , all he did was he put a 6" tall peice plexi on a hinge the length of the dash cluster and at about 0 mph it would flip up and it worked excellent !
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Originally Posted by ViciousOne
(Post 2989570)
Richard, All you can do is give it a try, my buddy had a 115 mph A O , all he did was he put a 6" tall peice plexi on a hinge the length of the dash cluster and at about 0 mph it would flip up and it worked excellent !
http://www.danamarineproducts.com/Pr...a-b478b3b4ebe5 |
Originally Posted by ROTAX454
(Post 2989817)
Sparky, The hinge method is sorta like the old Cigarette Top Gun flip-up windscreens mounted on the race fairing. How about a pair of these mounted into the top of the dash?
http://www.danamarineproducts.com/Pr...a-b478b3b4ebe5 |
Originally Posted by ViciousOne
(Post 2990386)
I think that will work mighty fine.
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Originally Posted by ROTAX454
(Post 2990589)
At a mighty fine 800 a piece too. Yikes.
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