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Rocko C 06-30-2005 02:12 PM

Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
I have a 2000 25 Outlaw with a Procharged (M3SC) and intercooled MCM 502 w/ Procharger competition fuel system. There are no other engine mods. I'm running a Bravo I 28p prop. and am topping out at 71.8 GPS trimmed up / no tabs. It gets up on plane immediately but I was just curious about the top end. Thanks everyone !

baja36ft 06-30-2005 02:49 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
What Rpm Are You Turning?

Rocko C 06-30-2005 02:50 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
Approx. 4800 RPM.

baja36ft 06-30-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
At 4800 And 12% Slip You Should Be At 74.5 Or So Why
Don't You Try A 26 Bravo And Get The Rpm Up Some
I Guess The Rev Limiter Is At 5150?

baja36ft 06-30-2005 02:57 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
If You Can Get A Hydromotive Prop And Try That
A Friend With A 99 Outlaw (25)has One With A 502
And Runs 69.4 It Was Alot Faster Prop Then A
Bravo.

steve1k99 06-30-2005 03:24 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
You should get more speed, have you asked procharger what prop you should run

Rocko C 06-30-2005 04:01 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by steve1k99
You should get more speed, have you asked procharger what prop you should run


No, not yet. I'll e-mail them next. Thanks.

JST2FST 06-30-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
A friend of mine has 82 MPH out of a 454, and skip the hydromotive it never held up to the torque of my procharged 502 H2x I run 89.8. A friend of mine helps design the kits if you need help!

Rocko C 06-30-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
What's involved in the 'kit' ? What kind/size prop are you running on your H2X ?

JaayTeee 06-30-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
I would think with 570+ HP you should
be running at least in the upper 70's

Do you have a boost gauge ?

And if so, how much boost are you showing ?

.....Fuel pressure too ???

Rocko C 06-30-2005 08:56 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by jt29olhp500s
I would think with 570+ HP you should
be running at least in the upper 70's

Do you have a boost gauge ?

And if so, how much boost are you showing ?

.....Fuel pressure too ???


Yes, I have both gauges. I'll let you know after this weekend.

Smitty 07-01-2005 07:48 AM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
I had a Whipplecharged 24 Outlaw and would run 75 with a 26" Bravo all day long at 5000 rpm. Something is wrong with your setup. It should be going somewhere in the low 80's if it is setup properly.

jonyb 07-01-2005 09:54 AM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
A local here with the same boat and Procharger on a 496HO claims 80 on GPS. I haven't ridden in it yet, but several others back him up on it

JST2FST 07-01-2005 07:23 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
We have 32 worked over hydromotive. Now a bravo 30.

JST2FST 07-01-2005 07:26 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
If you need some help this weekend while you are out, call (816) 739-TREE. Dave

articfriends 07-01-2005 11:39 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
My 2000 baja 272 ran 76 mph directly off the dyno w/629hp w/28 pitch at 4900-5000,about same speed w/26 pitch at 5400. Ran 79 mph at 5200 w/28 pitch,m-3 on 502 mpi w/lightning headers,merlin heads but stock cam. Ran 85.1 w/n-3 on 540,will run between 95-100 this year w/950 hp. Your boat at 570 hp would be about right at 72 on gps as we have similar hulls,Smitty

Rocko C 07-02-2005 11:10 AM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
Ok, everyone thanks for the input. Since I don't have a performance shop close by, I'll probably wait until the winter and have the prop labbed. I'll still report on the boost and fuel pressure for jt29olhp500 if I get a chance to get out on the water this weekend (the weather sucks right now).

txcharlie 07-03-2005 11:07 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
Hey Smitty,
Looks like you are the man I need to talk to. I've been looking for someone with a 272 with 502mpi B1 setup that has used a Procharger?
I've read different posts that say you have to cut or notch your stringers to install the Procharger kit. I haven't heard from anyone with a 272 yet.
So how was the install? Did you have to pull engine in order to avoid cutting or notching the stringers? Does it require a professional to install?
Thanks,
Charlie :cool:

articfriends 07-04-2005 04:46 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
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Originally Posted by txcharlie
Hey Smitty,
Looks like you are the man I need to talk to. I've been looking for someone with a 272 with 502mpi B1 setup that has used a Procharger?
I've read different posts that say you have to cut or notch your stringers to install the Procharger kit. I haven't heard from anyone with a 272 yet.
So how was the install? Did you have to pull engine in order to avoid cutting or notching the stringers? Does it require a professional to install?
Thanks,
Charlie :cool:

I didn't have to notch any stringers even with a m-3 sc ,but you won't get a aw504 innercooler in front of motor. I piped mine off to the side worked out swee.call me 989-823-7319 and I'll give you any pointers I can,Smitty

articfriends 07-04-2005 04:50 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
I just switched out my lightning headers for stainless marine hi tq 3's because my heads and cam on my 540 are too radical if your looking for a set. They have captains call,new solenoids,shift bracket,egt bungs in # 7&8,plus the gaffrig egts and probes go with them,they are like new,1000$ if your interested,Smitty

De_Thomaso 07-09-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by JST2FST
A friend of mine has 82 MPH out of a 454, and skip the hydromotive it never held up to the torque of my procharged 502 H2x I run 89.8. A friend of mine helps design the kits if you need help!

I always wonder about how my H2x would run with a Procharger.
Got only the lame 7.4 MPI do you think JST2FST i can benefit from a Procharger.

jonyb 07-10-2005 07:09 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by De_Thomaso
I always wonder about how my H2x would run with a Procharger.
Got only the lame 7.4 MPI do you think JST2FST i can benefit from a Procharger.

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Don't think I'd want to be in an H2X. Those things are unstable with the stock 7.4 in them. I was almost thrown out of mine last year after hitting some waves that I couldn't see. If my friend hadn't been in the boat, I'd be dead. That's why I upgraded this year to a 25 O/L.

JST2FST 07-11-2005 12:17 AM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
Yes have seen work at 18 to 24 mph gains on 454's, and the H2X it is stable until 85 mph is 1.5ft chop but after that hold on. We are looking for 33 OL. But then again different strokes you know you got to have common sence when driving this fast. But you would never catch me modifiing my parent's Hondas after I saw a fast and furious movie either.

txcharlie 07-13-2005 10:38 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
Hey Smitty,
Thanks for posting so quick. I apologize for not responding sooner. I'm interested in all your hand me downs. :D Could you email me the pics. I can't view them on here without upgrading. I'd rather put my money in the boat. My email is [email protected]. Thanks again for your input. :)

dj-4-u 07-20-2005 08:32 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
NOt supercharged, but I have a stock 454 mag in a 25 outlaw. Baja claims the boat should top speed at 5200 rpms...i'm only seeing 4600 rpms. The boats best mph is 67 on gps at 4600 rpms. Everything is stock. I have mirage 23(stock) prop. Are my speeds and rpms similiar to others with a stock 454 mag in a 25 outlaw? Thanks for the info.

I would think that a supercharged 502 would mph at least 80!

catsmeow 07-20-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
I have a 99 outlaw ,502 mag mpi,lightning headers,m3 procharger.I run 83 mph .on GPS. My best speeds are attained using a merc. bravo one four blade it was a 30 pitch new, now labbed to a 30.5. I run right at5050 RPM.I put 53 hours on the motor before adding the procharger,now have 303 trouble free hrs. I would reccomend this combination to all! [except JonyBI don't want his new outlaw leaving orange stripes on my hull,like his green acura did as it sped away from my SHO last year]..CatsMeow.

jonyb 07-22-2005 08:13 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by catsmeow [except JonyBI don't want his new outlaw leaving orange stripes on my hull,like his green acura did as it sped away from my SHO last year
..CatsMeow.

:cool:

De_Thomaso 07-27-2005 06:34 AM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by jonyb
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Don't think I'd want to be in an H2X. Those things are unstable with the stock 7.4 in them. I was almost thrown out of mine last year after hitting some waves that I couldn't see. If my friend hadn't been in the boat, I'd be dead. That's why I upgraded this year to a 25 O/L.

Thanks a lot jonyb,
i also thought it could be risky, but i read about a H2x here that runs around 90, so i thought the i do not have to expect more instability.
P.S. Sorry for for my still miserable English. :o
However thanks a lot you saved me money an maybe my live.
Tom

articfriends 07-28-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 

Originally Posted by txcharlie
Hey Smitty,
Thanks for posting so quick. I apologize for not responding sooner. I'm interested in all your hand me downs. :D Could you email me the pics. I can't view them on here without upgrading. I'd rather put my money in the boat. My email is [email protected]. Thanks again for your input. :)

Charlie,i have a set of lightning headers w/selectable y-pipes,like new with egt probes in # 7&8,includes the egt probes and gaffrig egt gauge like new 1000$firm,were on my 2000 baja 272 for 2 years,Smitty 989-823-7319

jonyb 07-28-2005 04:54 PM

Re: Speed out of a Procharged 25 Outlaw ?
 
The lake that I boat on can get pretty rough at times. The day I almost lost it, the water was calm. I came into some rolling waves that were out of nowhere. No other boats around at the time. After hitting the second one, the bow stood straight up, and the stern dropped down first. That boat was really heavy in the ass-end for some reason. At that point, I came out of the seat, hit the back of my head on the starboard rail, got road-rash from the cd player cover, and was paralyzed for about 10 minutes. Riding in the O/L now, I realize how much better it rides. Good luck in your search.

Blown Asset 06-20-2017 09:51 AM

Prcharged 250 outlaw
 
I am running a similar setup on my 250 SST. 502 with a 30P Bravo 1 at 7PSI boost but i have IMCO Exhaust and have to have perfect conditions to reach top RPMs by over-trimming the drive thus losing handling. just ordered a 28P. when things are perfect and running the 30P I squeak past 80mph but it is very inconsistent on even being able to reach 5200 RPMs. When I took it to Crocket he set it up correctly (First mechanic was clueless) He ran the boat and I had no speedo but the math said Mid 80's which is where it should run I have been told. I have since proved it on GPS. and again get a fuel pressure gauge and a boost gauge so you can eliminate and concern about belt slip and running too lean on fuel so you don't grenade your motor. I will repost after I run the 28P as of right now I am with Catsmeow

IGetWet 06-30-2017 10:27 PM

This thread was like 12 years old brah..... guys could be using walkers and canes by now


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