36 Outlaw wet weight
 

What does a 1998 36 outlaw weigh WET??? Anyone owners out there that have proven what their boats weigh full of fuel, water, waste, gear etc... My boat limit has a strict weight limit. Any input would be great.

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Correction: my Boatlift has a strict weight limit:)

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How much does your lift, lift? I would bet you need a 15k lift to get a 36 out of the water.

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Literature says 8300, add 1800 for full tank of fuel and whatever gear and you'd be close to maxing out a 12,000 lbs lift

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Yep - I'd say you're close to 10k lbs. full of fuel and gear - 12k lift at the minimum.

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I have calculated my 2000 36 outlaw at around 10,500. That is for a day at the lake with coolers, gas, water, etc.

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Smitty pretty much has it right on.

My Myco trailer weighs 2200 lbs per Myco. I have added a tool box to it with some gear inside.

On the scale full of fuel we weighed 12,800 lbs.

Subtract the trailer weight and it is 10,600 lbs. I bet my tool box is at least 100 lbs total.

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Thats what I was guessing 10,500-10,600...The lift will will do 10,500 all day...Thanks for the replys

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Dock what do you think my aluminum triple weighs under my 36?

also, they figure all the 36 weights the same, but some have a/c, micro, etc. i wonder how much difference that makes.

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I did not see you trailer but I would say the least would be 1500 lbs up to maybe 2500 lbs for a steel trailer.

Microwave = 20 lbs
A/C = 75 lbs

They really do not make too much of a difference.

I would say from a bare bones model to a fully equiped model would be maybe 300 lbs.

I was there when they lifted mine off the flatbed with the crane and it showed 8400 lbs on the crane scale from the factory will all options.

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What year is your outlaw?

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Your lift ain't gonna work. Sorry.

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A friend of mine with a 98' 36 O/L had
his on a 12k polylift down at LOTO upon
the reccomendations of the lift people
down at LOTO.

However, when they were doing some work on the
dock, they put it on a 10k econolift at another dock,
and it lifted it no problem.

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Don't get me wrong-bigger is better...but If I could keep the boat under 10,500 that lift would work....the next size up is 13k and is alot more $$$$. Thanks again for the replys

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Another thought is how often are you going to fuel your boat up before you put it on the hoist? For me, Even if I fuel up that morning I am going to have 50 gallons less fuel (at least)in the boat by the time I get back to my slip?

Hoists generally lift more than they are rated as well. I realize bigger is better but I did a test with a formula 33'6 Sr1 on my old 8,000# poly lift (With fuel the boat is right about 10,000) and it actually lifted it up accept for about 6" of the drives still being in the water. I would say if you have a good lift it will legitamately lift about 1,000lbs more than it is rated.

My Apache weighs 10,000 dry and has a 200 gallon fuel tank and I have no concerns about my new 12,000# polylift holding her safe and sound.

Does anybody have a guess what a 38' steel triple axle eagle trailer weighs?

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2002

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Not arguing the point here, but a 7000 lb lift won't lift my empty 29 Outlaw. How would a 10k lift pick up a 36 Outlaw? Like I said, I'm not arguing the point, I just can't figure it out.

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I have witnessed a 10,000 lb Poly lift brand lift bring a 36' outlaw to full height. I'm not a lift engineer but they evidently make them to hold more than they are rated for. It is kind of like my pickup. It is rated to tow 15,800 lbs via gooseneck hitch, but it will pull 17,000 that way all day. It isn't legal because I would go over my combined gross weight and it might hurt my ability to warranty drive train problems, but It will do it.

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In my business we design belt and chain drives for machinery, shaft couplings and even complete conveyor systems.

There is something called service factor that we design into everything as an added level of safety, and to assure that even if a customer overloads a system beyond what they claim to need that it will not fail.

We normally always use a 1.5 service factor meaning that it will handle 50% more load, torque, etc. if needed.

There is NO WAY on God's Green Earth that I would put my boat on a lift that was not designed to handle at least a couple of thousand pounds more then the boat could ever weigh fully loaded.

I'm a believer that more is better.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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What's a few more hundred when you got thousands invested in a nice boat. Where will this lift and boat be sitting? If you're maxed out with the boat in the air and a cruiser goes by it ain't gonna be pretty.

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A few hundred???try several thousand....These are caddy boat lifts not that poly air bullchit. SUNSTREAM FLOATLIFT. Check them out- www.sunstreamboatlifts.com
It is in a protected marina anyways. NO OFFENCE to anyone that has another type of lift...
I too agree with the fuel issue....who want to leave the tanks topped off anyways.

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Put some outboards on that baby and you have a pontoon boat.:D

It does look nice.

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10-4 doc,
Funny you should mention that...At the boat show I have them on display out of the water and everyone want to know "where is the steering wheel" or "where does the BBQ go" flippin tire kickers:chimp:
I do use a outboard to deliver them...just bolt one on and launch it...

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Westcoast,

When I purchased mine (for a 99 36 owtlaw - loaded) I was between a 10,000 and a 12,000 lb lift. I went with the 12,000 HydroHoist Cable Lift. It handles my boat just fine. Now, would the 10,000 have worked? I don't know. I have not actually weighed the boat but like most of the replies figure it in the 9500 to 10500 range depending on fuel load etc.

I will agree with Dock as I would always go with more than needed. I had the opportunity to witness an "Brand X" lift fall apart under a 35 Cigarette Playboy. It was not a pretty site and needless to say there was considerable damage to the boat and the lift was a total loss.

Hope this will help in you decision.

Mark

What brand did you witness, and how much was the lift rated for? I have heard of bent arms, but never complete failure.

It was rated for 12,000 lbs.

Problem was the arms were but welded together without any braceing. Once the first one let go the rest followed very quickly.

I can't remember the actual brand name at the moment but I think made in Missssouri. Was not HydroHoist of Poly Lift. The tanks was a large plastic box, not tubes as used in most lifts.

Mark

Probably Econo lift, Carvel, or fibersteel. Just goes to show that you get what you pay for. Thanks for responding. That is the first time I have heard of a failure that catostrophic.