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marcello 08-02-2007 06:21 AM

Prop for Baja Outlaw26
 
I have a brand new Baja Outlaw26 with 375hp and a 22" four-bladed Bravo I. Maximum speed regarding GPS is 57-58 MPH with 4600 RPM, 2 persons, fuel: 1/2, no wind, smoth lake (freshwater). Which prop increases max. speed and fits best to this boat? Thanks to all in advance for each help. Unfortunately in Switzerland (Euorpe) does not exist such a offshore-maniac.

thank you to all for answering so fast. do I understand it right, that the 375hp 8.1litre could be driven with 4800 RPM using a 24" prop? or would it be also possible to drive a 23" Mirage Lab? What are your experience of real top speed in this range of boat and motor? In my country is not allowed to have open exhausted engines, it is very strict with all.

haulinvols 08-02-2007 11:37 AM

Four blade props seem to be a good choice on the 25/26 Outlaws.

I know mine rides and handles much better with the four blade. I have a 496HO and run a 24p Bravo 1 four blade.

On your boat with the mag, it seems like you need to gain back a couple hundred RPM. This can be done by labbing your current prop. Someone like B-Blades or Throttle-up can help you with this. This should gain you a little speed increase and give you a pretty good all around prop.

AIR TIME 08-02-2007 05:19 PM

or try a rev 4 by merc from BBLADDES in a 23p .the baja s have a non step deep drive height and the rev 4s work great on them. art

StillHaulin@63 08-02-2007 06:47 PM

I'll bet a labbed 24p Bravo/1 is your best bet for both speed & ride.

haulinvols 08-02-2007 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by StillHaulin@63 (Post 2221967)
I'll bet a labbed 24p Bravo/1 is your best bet for both speed & ride.

If he had an HO maybe, but not with a mag. He is already down 200rpm with the 22. 26 Outlaw is a lot of boat for a mag motor. Just my .02 though.

kennyo 08-02-2007 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by haulinvols (Post 2222025)
If he had an HO maybe, but not with a mag. He is already down 200rpm with the 22. 26 Outlaw is a lot of boat for a mag motor. Just my .02 though.

I agree.

AIR TIME 08-03-2007 10:20 AM

thats why the 23 rev would work its faster than a b1 22, and smaller blades, dia, too so he should pick up some rpms or lab it. bbladdes .art

Wild Card 09 08-05-2007 03:44 AM

Marcello, if you are running with a closed exhaust - do you mean thru prop? That will take a hundred revs off your top end.
What country do you boat in?

marcello 08-06-2007 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Card 09 (Post 2223932)
Marcello, if you are running with a closed exhaust - do you mean thru prop? That will take a hundred revs off your top end.
What country do you boat in?

In Switzerland, 432 meters above sealevel. yes thruough prop, a stubid country law:-((

Wild Card 09 08-07-2007 04:14 PM

On which swiss lake do you boat? Surely they are not more strict than lake Constance! There are rules and there are rules, you know!
Either way, expect thru prop exhaust and the altitude to take the edge off the performance. Maybe a mile each or a little more.

Donīt you have a speed limit on the lake, as well, anyway?
I have a twin engined Chris Craft on lake Constance (thatīs why I know the rules) for laid back cruising weekends, but mostly Iīm out on the Outlaw, elsewhere, haulinīass.

AIR TIME 08-07-2007 11:19 PM

what about HIGH FLOW MUFFLERS for threw hull exhaust going threw the drive will heat up the drive and rob you of 3 to 5 mph and put a load on the motor.:angry-smiley-044: art

marcello 08-08-2007 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Card 09 (Post 2226578)
On which swiss lake do you boat? Surely they are not more strict than lake Constance! There are rules and there are rules, you know!
Either way, expect thru prop exhaust and the altitude to take the edge off the performance. Maybe a mile each or a little more.

Donīt you have a speed limit on the lake, as well, anyway?
I have a twin engined Chris Craft on lake Constance (thatīs why I know the rules) for laid back cruising weekends, but mostly Iīm out on the Outlaw, elsewhere, haulinīass.

On the lake of Biel there are only the 150m and 300m rules to be considered, after that free speed is possible. I think with the technical and local limitation 58-59 MPH are arguably the most possible....

Wild Card 09 08-09-2007 02:53 AM

Marcello, you should try a labbed 24" Bravo. It may work for you. The thinner blades giving you a couple of hundred revs more and counter the 24" pitch. Also, Baja hulls run faster in a chop. You will never see your best speed on smooth water, and anyway even 80 mph will seem boring on glassy smooth water.

Why donīt you come down to the Liquid Quarter Mile event at the Interboot in september? We have a great time, there, and the event, in its third year gets bigger each time. They will have their own exclusive dock this year, and the number of offshore and gofast boats will be a real sight to see.

check out www.offshoreonly.de
and www.liquidquartermile.de
Who ever would have thought that this could take place on Lake Constance?!

AIR TIME 08-10-2007 10:44 AM

Marcello do you know what I mean about the merc rev 4 23 labbed prop.?? did you call bbladdes and talk to brett?? if you want I will tell him what you have and see what he has to say about the 3 props mirage, rev 4 , bravo1. the phone call to you might be a lot of money. and not cost me at all and I will post his choice here and price. REV4 I know guys who are running them and they handle better than the b1, mirage on BAJAS with stock height drives.. If you want I can send you a hydromotive p24 3 blade prop used for 250, which I ran with a stock 330hp and 390hp 454 and 502 way back in the 90s. So please let me help you out ,my mother is from w. germany too. if you had a high drive high like myself or wildcard I would stay with the b1 prop also look in to the through hull exhaust with high flow mufflers its got to be holding you back 3 to 5 and the heat to the drive exhaust can't be good, or switchables anyway please let me now if I can help I only have owned my baja for 17yrs:D and have tried a lot of stuff. art

marcello 08-11-2007 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Card 09 (Post 2228469)
Marcello, you should try a labbed 24" Bravo. It may work for you. The thinner blades giving you a couple of hundred revs more and counter the 24" pitch. Also, Baja hulls run faster in a chop. You will never see your best speed on smooth water, and anyway even 80 mph will seem boring on glassy smooth water.

Why donīt you come down to the Liquid Quarter Mile event at the Interboot in september? We have a great time, there, and the event, in its third year gets bigger each time. They will have their own exclusive dock this year, and the number of offshore and gofast boats will be a real sight to see.

check out www.offshoreonly.de
and www.liquidquartermile.de
Who ever would have thought that this could take place on Lake Constance?!

stephen, that is a great proposal with the liquid quarter mile, I did not know about it. At the moment I am really not so happy with the boat because I have expected more - the difference to my old one are only a few mph!!

marcello 08-11-2007 03:34 AM

Yes I have seen the rev 4 23 - one of the best prop doctors in Switzerland told me that this would not really work with my boat. unfortunately we had extremly bad weather the last day and lots of lake are overflooded and a lot of wood is on the lakes - no boating at the moment. anyway, first I would try a 21" mirage? what do you mean? Labbed 24" Bravo 1, who has such prop and sends this for testing? I guess that I am the onliest speed fanatic driver in my region looking for each mph on his boat - unfortunately. So this kind of contact I appreciate. This with the exhaust it is not possible due to really strict environmental and noise level rules.

marcello 08-11-2007 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Card 09 (Post 2228469)
Marcello, you should try a labbed 24" Bravo. It may work for you. The thinner blades giving you a couple of hundred revs more and counter the 24" pitch. Also, Baja hulls run faster in a chop. You will never see your best speed on smooth water, and anyway even 80 mph will seem boring on glassy smooth water.

Why donīt you come down to the Liquid Quarter Mile event at the Interboot in september? We have a great time, there, and the event, in its third year gets bigger each time. They will have their own exclusive dock this year, and the number of offshore and gofast boats will be a real sight to see.

check out www.offshoreonly.de
and www.liquidquartermile.de
Who ever would have thought that this could take place on Lake Constance?!

stephen, could we once have a call? As I guess you are from Germany?

Wild Card 09 08-11-2007 07:59 PM

Sure. I live in Stuttgart.
Call me.
(49) 170 911 3 911

AIR TIME 08-15-2007 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2230097)
Marcello do you know what I mean about the merc rev 4 23 labbed prop.?? did you call bbladdes and talk to brett?? if you want I will tell him what you have and see what he has to say about the 3 props mirage, rev 4 , bravo1. the phone call to you might be a lot of money. and not cost me at all and I will post his choice here and price. REV4 I know guys who are running them and they handle better than the b1, mirage on BAJAS with stock height drives.. If you want I can send you a hydromotive p24 3 blade prop used for 250, which I ran with a stock 330hp and 390hp 454 and 502 way back in the 90s. So please let me help you out ,my mother is from w. germany too. if you had a high drive high like myself or wildcard I would stay with the b1 prop also look in to the through hull exhaust with high flow mufflers its got to be holding you back 3 to 5 and the heat to the drive exhaust can't be good, or switchables anyway please let me now if I can help I only have owned my baja for 17yrs:D and have tried a lot of stuff. art

MARCELLO DID YOU READ THIS BRETT WILL SEND PROPS TO TRY PLUS SHIPPING IF YOU WANT ME CALL HIM AND SEE WHAT HE THINKS YOU NEED I WILL DO THAT FOR YOU, ITS CHEAPER FOR ME TO CALL THEN YOU,. ART

evaluex 08-16-2007 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by marcello (Post 2230858)
Labbed 24" Bravo 1, who has such prop and sends this for testing?

We do have these lab finished props in stock, ready for real world testing

We are located in Belgium, Europe and do send them out to Switserland, Germany, etc etc

Feel free to contact us wenever you want to
[email protected]
or + 32 3 789 91 32

marcello 08-16-2007 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2236242)
MARCELLO DID YOU READ THIS BRETT WILL SEND PROPS TO TRY PLUS SHIPPING IF YOU WANT ME CALL HIM AND SEE WHAT HE THINKS YOU NEED I WILL DO THAT FOR YOU, ITS CHEAPER FOR ME TO CALL THEN YOU,. ART

That would be great if you could takt a call with brett. One of the most answers is the 24" lab mirage (3 blade!). Knowing that I loose 3 - 5 MPH with the exhaust through prob I am sure to solve more MPH than the reached 58-59 GPS MPH. For every help I thank you very much.
Best regards, Marcello

AIR TIME 08-16-2007 10:38 PM

I will call on friday tell him what you have:D art

AIR TIME 08-22-2007 12:54 PM

I talked to BBLADES FOR YOU BRETT SAID TO GO WITH THE MIRAGE PLUS 23 LABBED would be the best for you BUT if you are water sking or tubbing too. then the REV4 23 LABBED WOULD BE BETTER. IF YOU WANT TO TRY THEM THEY ARE 20.00 EACH PLUS SHIPPING TO AND FROM.HES BEHIND LOOKING AT POSTS SO HE TOLD ME TO talk to you, let me now what you want to do ,the prices are mirage plus labbed805.00 the rev 4 labbed 745.00 ,if you need any of the above I will set up a time for you to order since theres a time diff. any other Qs about you baja ask I have owned mine for 17yrs and did 6 motor upgrades and changes:D art ps speeds will be in the 60s:D

evaluex 08-23-2007 08:44 AM

Just be carefull... all parts -even for testing, demo etc- are subjected to non-refundable VAT, import taxes etc

Might become rather expensive if not keeping this prop(s)

AIR TIME 08-24-2007 12:29 AM

what if it was shipped as a gift from second party thats for a 23 mirage labbed no testing then brett is right on his stuff. art

AIR TIME 08-24-2007 12:32 AM

ship as sample I know that works, art


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