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bmergner 08-27-2007 10:43 PM

H2X info???? any help would be great!!!
 
hey everyone, looking at buying a new H2X, 496mag/bravo 1. any input on speed, ride and any overall info would be great....... i don't see much on the H2X but i'm really wanting one pretty bad.:D i'm thinking the boat would run in the high 60's and maybe touch a 70 on a good day. thanks in advance for any help...........:chimp:

yschmidt 08-28-2007 07:44 AM

Our H2X has been a great boat. Nice looking lines, and your right on with speeds. Ours is up for sale now. Custom paint & nice upgraes throughout. Shoot me a message if interested.

customtouch 08-28-2007 09:57 AM

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Here are some pics of yschmidt's H2X. I just painted this boat and did several upgrades to it earlier this year . I can tell you this boat is very clean and well taken care of. If you are serious about an H2X, I would take a long hard look at it .

customtouch 08-28-2007 10:02 AM

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H2X 08-28-2007 10:08 AM

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Iīve got a 1999 H2X with a 575SCI and Superchiller.
The boat tops out at around 85 mph and handles the power very well. WOT and fully trimmed out it sometimes starts chine walking at 80++.

We use it on the River Rhine here in Germany where we have all kinds of chop. Sometimes from every direction. A little more deadrise would sometimes be better but it handles also big chop at 70+ very well.

The cabin is. . . forget the cabin.

The boat is very strong built. I do not have any stress cracks in the gel.

It is a really nice boat.

Greetings from Germany

Alex

zx14 08-28-2007 10:21 AM

What is the differance between this H2X and a 25 outlaw?

jonyb 08-28-2007 10:53 AM

forget that! Get a 25' Outlaw. The H2X has a 21 degree deadrise, so there's not so much boat in the water, the motor is way too heavy for that hull. If you launch it or hit big waves, the bow goes straight up and the stern drops hard because of the weight. I was almost thrown out of one when I hit some waves.

The Outlaw has a 24 degree deadrise and lands flat, so the hull is deeper and the bolsters drop so you can actually stand and don't have to sit to drive, among many other differences.

If you're spending the money to buy a new H2X, then use that money to get an Outlaw that's a few years old. I just sold my 2005 25' and I guarantee that I sold it cheaper than you'll pay for that H2X.

bmergner 08-28-2007 11:50 AM

Thanks for the info, i have a Crownline to trade in so if i don't sale it i have to stick to a dealer which i'm working with now. i love the custom paint, looks GREAT..... want a Crownline? the dealer has a 25 Outlaw as well with 496 Mag Ho/bravo x drive so i'm looking at both as of today. we boat in smaller lakes and we never see much chop and never see waves. if the wind is blowing reall hard we may get a few white caps but 2 foot tops and that's rare. i was thinking the outlaw is too much hull for where we boat. but i'm leaning towards a Outlaw more and more.

bmergner 08-28-2007 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by customtouch (Post 2250704)
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bad butt MANN... LOOKS great......

jonyb 08-28-2007 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by bmergner (Post 2250886)
we boat in smaller lakes and we never see much chop and never see waves. if the wind is blowing reall hard we may get a few white caps but 2 foot tops and that's rare. i was thinking the outlaw is too much hull for where we boat. but i'm leaning towards a Outlaw more and more.

So you'll never travel to a different lake? There's no such thing as too much hull.

Once you get inside the Outlaw and the H2X, you'll rule out the H2X. I've owned both....

H2X 08-29-2007 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jonyb (Post 2250791)
If you launch it or hit big waves, the bow goes straight up and the stern drops hard because of the weight. I was almost thrown out of one when I hit some waves.

I have to disagree. As Iwrote in my previous post, sometimes a little more deadrise would be better. We have got some mean chop here and I run the H2X real fast. I never came close to fall out of the boat. I donīt know what you did to get into such a situation. The OL takes the chop better, no doubt, but the H2X takes it really good. 2 or 3 foot chop is definetely just nothing for the boat. Donīt forget that the H2X will be the faster boat due to the different deadrise.

The boats are just different not one ist better or worse. It has to fit your needs.

As the picture shows it is just a matter of trim and tabs to fly fast, high and levelled. This one here is 70+.

bmergner 08-29-2007 07:32 AM

SWEET pic......... looks GREAT.... the dealer has a 2008 H2X with a 496/bravo 1 and a 2003 Outlaw with a 496HO/x drive. we are working on trade valve this week. i'm sure i will buy one of the 2 for sure. we will see how the trade goes 1st....??????.....

bmergner 08-29-2007 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by jonyb (Post 2250904)
So you'll never travel to a different lake? There's no such thing as too much hull.

Once you get inside the Outlaw and the H2X, you'll rule out the H2X. I've owned both....

we stay at the same lake each weekend, we have dry storage there and a 2nd living also. we try to take a v-kay once a year away from our lake but that's it. soRRy...

baja bailey 08-29-2007 08:02 AM

I have a 99 H2X I bought new with a 502 mpi., has been a real good boat,never have had any problems with it yet. I have heard nothing but good things about the Outlaw also.

jonyb 08-29-2007 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by H2X (Post 2252022)
I donīt know what you did to get into such a situation. The OL takes the chop better, no doubt, but the H2X takes it really good.

The lake was pretty calm, but somehow there were about 5 or 6 waves that I came up on. Hit the first one, skipped the second one, then the boat came down with the third and launched up on teh 4th. I came out of the seat (because you can't stand up), flew across the passenger, hit the back of my head on the outside of the boat on the port side, scraped about a 12" square of skin off my back from the radio enclosure, then landed between the seats. I was paralyzed for at least 10 minutes, the whole time bleeding all over teh boat. I finally started getting the feeling back in my body and stood up. A friend (Jim Diesel on this site )was following me in the same boat except his was a 98 model. He said he saw the prop when it happened. It wasn't long after that both of us sold our H2X's and moved up to Outlaws.

bmergner do yourself a favor and just skip the h2x. Wish I'd done that to start with. That's just a fact of the accident and opinion on both boats. After owning both, I know what I won't own again, and it's not the Outlaw. Take that as you will, but it's whatever makes you happy and fits your needs, just as H2X has said.

Wild Card 09 08-29-2007 01:24 PM

Wow, that sounds like a life changing experience. Every boat reaches its limit at some point, and we all needed quite a few hours to find out where those limits are, going past them a few times and thanking our guardian angel for another good job done.
There are stories just like yours of much bigger boats than either the H2x or the 25OL. Seats getting ripped out of Cigs and Fountains, and Sunsations tearing in half.
Akex runs his 650 HP H2x every bit as hard and fast as I dare to run my Outlaw in confused and difficult water. He is, in my opinion, an extremely good driver and can keep things level because alot of experience in a variety of fast boats.
No boat will let you just hold onto the wheel and bounce gently across a series of wakes with the same drive and tab setting that you used to do 70 mph a few seconds before.

Bottom line - I love my 25, but I apprerciate the advantages of the H2x.
For a comparable model year you will pay less for a boat that still has a cabin and five good seats, a sunpad and a swim platform. it runs about 3 mph faster than the 25 with the same power, uses less fuel and comes up on plane quicker. it still looks sexy as hell, and you sit nice and low in that cockpit and look real cool.

Climb aboard both boats at the dealership, and if possible get a ride in both, look at yourself in the mirror, and decide whether you are a H2x or an Outlaw guy:D :D :D :D :D

H2X 08-29-2007 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Card 09 (Post 2252702)
He is, in my opinion, an extremely good driver

Hey ! Thank you for that ! Sorry that the fuse stopped us from
flying high last Sunday. I had the feeling that you liked it :D

I have had critical situations in my boat life, too. No real bad ones with the H2X till now. Hope they stay away.

You brought it to a point. It is the best to test both boats and find out what kind of guy you are.

Skullkrusher 09-01-2007 08:42 AM

I had a'99 H2x before my 33 Outlaw and I loved it. Only reason I moved up is because all my boating is in rough water. For a lake, the H2X will be a blast. Had a 454 with just minor upgrades and could get 68 on a smooth day. After I got stainless exhaust, I could hit 70. Good luck with your purchase.

Jim Diesel 09-04-2007 09:25 PM

In my own opinion the H2X has geat lines and a great design it has some nice features like the hidden cooler. But when it comes to ride I like the OL better especially with the drop out bolsters and the cabin head room. I loved my H2X its just the lake I boat on gets pretty rough at times and the OL suits me better. Good luck on your choice and let us know what you end up with...

bmergner 09-04-2007 09:34 PM

thanks for the input everyone, still working things out. i did drive a 25 outlaw over the weekend. it's going to be a hard to pick between the two if we can get the $$$ and the trade worked out. thanks again......

dogghouse 09-05-2007 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by bmergner (Post 2259244)
thanks for the input everyone, still working things out. i did drive a 25 outlaw over the weekend. it's going to be a hard to pick between the two if we can get the $$$ and the trade worked out. thanks again......

It should not be a hard pick at all...... Spend the money get an outlaw. I have had an H2X a 25 outlaw and and a 29 outlaw. Hands down there is no comparison between an H2X and a 25 outlaw. Or you can just buy my 29! http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18443-en.html

bmergner 09-07-2007 06:24 AM

has anybody heard any input on " Raised X " on a H2X? i should know today for sure ( credit & money ), but the one i found has it from Baja. thanks

ship4brains 09-07-2007 12:38 PM

Keep in mind, the H2X WILL FIT in a standard 9 x 7 garage door.

Don't try that with a 25OL.


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