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Problem with 29 outlaw props
Well I had on before 24P Bravo 1's with my 29 Outlaw with the twin 385hp 454's...
I was able to pull about 5000 RPMS before Which what these engines are rated at but I was only doing about 66-67 mph... Someone had told me that moving up to the 26P Bravo 1's would do the trick... DEF not right! I just bought a set of 26P Bravo 1's (which are for sale now) and just got back from the lake...was Barely able to pull 4000 RPM's and couldn't even hardly get to 60mph trimmed and everything... Need some help guys...What Do I do now...I've seen some guys runnin' 25P Labbed 3 Blade Mirage's and pulling about 72-73 On same boat that I have...Is that what I need? Thanks any help is appreciated! Donny |
Were your 24P Bravo 1s labbed?
You might try labbing the 26P Bravo1s, and having them pitched to 25ish. If you are running 5000 RPMs, with your current props; you are pretty much right on target. You may not have any more speed to squeeze out, without lightening your load; friends, fuel, and gear. |
the 24's I bought used off ebay...didn't appear to have any work done to them though...
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Go to the prop threads and ask either Julie at Throttle Up or Brett at BBlades. Both are more than willing to help and both have excellent information.
Jay |
Donny,
With 454's I don't think you will see any higher speeds. I have a friend that had a 29 with the same power and his was a 65 MPH boat. You always want to prop your boat so that it will spin the props up to the maximum RPM range of the engine. If you are at 5000 now then you are there. You can have some of the shops look at yours and maybe some cup will reduce slip giving you a MPH or two more. Just always remember that if you are spinning a prop at the max RPM then you probably cannot spin a larger prop without adding more horsepower. As mentioned call Brett or Julie and they can give you some good sound advice. Goos luck Dock |
I rountinely ran 72 with mine on 3 blade 25's. They are not the best out of the hole but def the best for top end. BTW, I had mags also. Straight 7.4's would be a 65 mph boat.
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Yeah I think I need to buy a handheld GPS as well just to see if my speedo is accurate or not as well..I had to hookup an external pickup speedo to the boat since the factory one took a crap and I don't know how accurate it is...But looks like for right now i'm gonna look for some 25P Mirage Plus's any of you looking for any 26P Bravo 1's let me know...$650
oh yeah whats a inexpensive handheld gps? |
same probnlem
hey i am having the same problem eith my 35 outlaw they told me to go back to 26 s so tell me your lowest prıce and ı wıll buy them
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Originally Posted by buggyride
(Post 2283839)
hey i am having the same problem eith my 35 outlaw they told me to go back to 26 s so tell me your lowest prıce and ı wıll buy them
I would let them go for $650 |
650for both of them seems a little high but lowest i can get it seems how long have you used it and how do you want the payment
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They have about 20 hours on them, I can accept payment by paypal.
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[email protected] send your paypal ınfo
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sent to you buggy
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
(Post 2282227)
Donny,
With 454's I don't think you will see any higher speeds. I have a friend that had a 29 with the same power and his was a 65 MPH boat. You always want to prop your boat so that it will spin the props up to the maximum RPM range of the engine. If you are at 5000 now then you are there. You can have some of the shops look at yours and maybe some cup will reduce slip giving you a MPH or two more. Just always remember that if you are spinning a prop at the max RPM then you probably cannot spin a larger prop without adding more horsepower. I'm not sure if that is correct, Dock. My 29 has 7.4MPI's with 23 Mirages and runs 65 @ 4500 RPM. If I went down to say, 20's wouldn't it still run 4500 RPM but at a much slower speed (like going to a steeper rear end gear in your car)? I would think that it would just get there quicker if you were under propped. |
I ran labbed 26" on my 29 Outlaw with the same power. I ran a best of 74 & a daily of 71.
I had 1" IMCO shorties on it, but my boat was set-up with a low x-dimension from the get-go. If the 3 blades are faster & you don't want to have a good mid-range/cruise. Go with the 3 blades. Your boat may be set-up with a low x-dim & if that is the case, a 3 blade will work better. FYI, don't let anyone tell you that anything over 14% slip is acceptable for a 29 Baja Outlaw. I have less than 11% on my 29 with 3" shortys & extension boxes. |
I do also think that possibly my speedo might be off too...I'm not using the factory hookup speedo, the ones that run through the drives, that didn't work, So I hooked up an external hookup speedo that says its good to 80mph...it reads out but it might be off some...I'm gonna buy a handheld gps and see how accurate the speedo actually is...
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GPS speedo is the only way to go.
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Originally Posted by BajaFresh
(Post 2284450)
I'm not sure if that is correct, Dock. My 29 has 7.4MPI's with 23 Mirages and runs 65 @ 4500 RPM. If I went down to say, 20's wouldn't it still run 4500 RPM but at a much slower speed (like going to a steeper rear end gear in your car)? I would think that it would just get there quicker if you were under propped.
A friend that had a 272 when we also had one upgraded to this boat used out of Michigan and got a real good deal on it but the boat was slow. I could hang with him all day long in my 272 w/ 502 mag. Glad to hear they are running faster. |
Originally Posted by lbzmotofmx
(Post 2281785)
Well I had on before 24P Bravo 1's with my 29 Outlaw with the twin 385hp 454's...
I was able to pull about 5000 RPMS before Which what these engines are rated at but I was only doing about 66-67 mph... Someone had told me that moving up to the 26P Bravo 1's would do the trick... DEF not right! I just bought a set of 26P Bravo 1's (which are for sale now) and just got back from the lake...was Barely able to pull 4000 RPM's and couldn't even hardly get to 60mph trimmed and everything... Need some help guys...What Do I do now...I've seen some guys runnin' 25P Labbed 3 Blade Mirage's and pulling about 72-73 On same boat that I have...Is that what I need? Thanks any help is appreciated! Donny |
Originally Posted by Summer Thunder
(Post 2287314)
Wow I guess every boat is different. I run 26 Bravo 1s on my 29 w/454 mags and see 69-72 GPS at 4850-4900 depending on air temps ,load and water. I posted on the other thread about props. I have a set of 25 Mirages.
are your mirage's mirage plus's or regular? and what kinda speed did you see with those |
Originally Posted by lbzmotofmx
(Post 2287321)
Yeah thats odd with Mine, I thought I was going to see better results but I didn't with the 26P B1's
are your mirage's mirage plus's or regular? and what kinda speed did you see with those |
I have the 25 Mirage Plus props in my hand.
Part #s 48-13706 & 48-13707 |
Originally Posted by Summer Thunder
(Post 2288362)
I have the 25 Mirage Plus props in my hand.
Part #s 48-13706 & 48-13707 Are you supposed to be lifting anything that heavy in your condition? |
Yea Dock I'm good to go. Going back to work next Wednesday. Leaving for OSS races at LOTO in a few minutes. Finally I'm feeling great. :ernaehrung004:
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Originally Posted by Summer Thunder
(Post 2288592)
Yea Dock I'm good to go. Going back to work next Wednesday. Leaving for OSS races at LOTO in a few minutes. Finally I'm feeling great. :ernaehrung004:
That's good news Richard I really glad to hear it. Have fun this weekend and tell the wife we said hello. |
26 props
i just dropped a 540 stroker in my outlaw and have been messing with the props.i think a 26 will give me best speed (79-81) at best rpm,so i will be looking to buy if you need to get rid of one.thanks
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3 blade way to go on baja for top speed my buddy running25 lap there took the cup out5200rpm the motor in power band run the best he try 4 blades good mid no good top end 25 mirage plus is 200rpm more then reg 25mirage we try both good luck i hope i help you alittle
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