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WHOSNEXT 12-20-2007 10:53 AM

Fair price????????
 
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Went to trade up on another boat and got beat up pretty good on my bought….my question is how much do think is a fair price for my boat? It’s a 2001 25, with 200 hours In very good condition. Any info would be appreciated

t500hps 12-20-2007 12:51 PM

How bad did you beat them up on the bigger boat...alot of it depends on what they are (or are not) making on the new one.

WHOSNEXT 12-20-2007 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 2378545)
How bad did you beat them up on the bigger boat...alot of it depends on what they are (or are not) making on the new one.

I understand that, i did not beat them up at all, i just told them be fair on my boat and the deal would be done....i dont think 21k is too fair?

yesrej 12-20-2007 02:26 PM

no 21k is not fair.

Baja_man 12-20-2007 03:02 PM

I'll give you 22K

kennyo 12-20-2007 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2378730)
I'll give you 22K

That's fair.

FASTTIMES 12-20-2007 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by WHOSNEXT (Post 2378570)
I understand that, i did not beat them up at all, i just told them be fair on my boat and the deal would be done....i dont think 21k is too fair?

That ain't fair!

Dock Holiday 12-20-2007 03:51 PM

Probably around $40K to $45K assuming it has a 502Mag. A little less with less of a motor.

WHOSNEXT 12-20-2007 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Dock Holiday;2378793]Probably around $40K to $45K assuming it has a 502Mag. A little less with less of a motor.[/QUOTE

it has the 454mag....i was looking for the 35k range...

Dock Holiday 12-20-2007 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=WHOSNEXT;2378804]

Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2378793)
Probably around $40K to $45K assuming it has a 502Mag. A little less with less of a motor.[/QUOTE

it has the 454mag....i was looking for the 35k range...

That is a very fair number in my opinion.

Just try to retail it out for $39,500 and see what happens.

TexomaPowerboater 12-20-2007 04:27 PM

I think around $25K is fair.

Baja_man 12-20-2007 04:28 PM

Is it listed in the classifieds as I cannot see photo due to my cheap azz not paying the $40 membership.

WHOSNEXT 12-20-2007 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2378838)
Is it listed in the classifieds as I cannot see photo due to my cheap azz not paying the $40 membership.

no its not.....email me and i will get a picture over 2 ya. [email protected]

jmeng 12-21-2007 06:36 AM

I did a lot of shopping around on 25's last year. Assuming clean boat with a 502 and including a decent trailer I think around 35K - 40K is fair. Knock off a few thousand for a 454 mag.

obnoxus 12-21-2007 07:52 AM

Keep in mind, a dealer cant give you retail for your boat, as they need to resell it also.

Dont forget you save on taxes trading it in also.

That being said,,, I think they are still a bit low, get them uo to 25k,,,then the tax savings will put you in fair range on yours.

Tell us about the new boat though,,, make sure your ok there to.

WHOSNEXT 12-21-2007 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by obnoxus (Post 2379461)
Keep in mind, a dealer cant give you retail for your boat, as they need to resell it also.

Dont forget you save on taxes trading it in also.

no taxes in NH.....I do understand they need to re-sell boat but before I would insult someone with 21k I would tell them we don’t want a trade?

obnoxus 12-21-2007 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by WHOSNEXT (Post 2379524)
but before I would insult someone with 21k I would tell them we don’t want a trade?


Unfortunatly,,,, thats there job !!!!

Knowing you couldnt sell your old boat before you wanted another one !!!

TexomaPowerboater 12-21-2007 09:01 AM

$21K is reasonable. Here is a 99 24 pantera for $22.5 http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/6/91086136.htm

Granted, thats a hell of a deal, but competition also dictates price. 35-40 please, you can get a 28 for that price.

WHOSNEXT 12-21-2007 09:58 AM

I had no intention of selling my boat or trading it in, when I saw another boat that I wouldn’t mind owning this all came about, I told salesman just to treat me fair on trade?….also, some of you are saying 21-25 is a fair price….are you kidding me? Who is stupid enough to take that?

danh63 12-21-2007 10:02 AM

i had dealers all over the place on mine. Anywhere from $30,000 to $42,000. It was depending on how bad they were going to pants me on the other end. It seems Fastboats.com was about the fairest on both ends

danh63 12-21-2007 10:05 AM

A friend of mine in Tn sold his 01 25 outlaw with a 496 mag and close to your hours for $40,000 this past June. That should help you some. The ones telling you 20,000 are way out there, there is no way i would let it go for that. You put that boat out there for that and they will be beating your door down to get to it.

JasonSmith 12-21-2007 10:39 AM

Who cares what you "got" for your boat & what you "gave" for the new one. The thing to look at is what is called "trade difference".
Numbers can be adjusted on the trade to make you think you are getting a good deal.
In the car business we would show a person to be getting 12k for their trade when we may actually be only putting 8k in it. There may have been a 8k profit in the car we were selling, if it was sold outright, with no trade.
So now we have a 12k trade worth 8k & a car for sale that has 8k profit in it. We still made 4k on the deal that we probably palnned on only making a 4 or 5k profit on in the 1st place.
Trade difference is the ONLY number that is important! That is what yo uactually pay for the product.

Baja_man 12-21-2007 02:42 PM

There is an ad on here for a '06 25 OL 496HO for $53K. I think that that is a fair price. This time of year and market you may be able to get low 30's selling outright but trade in will be far less. I would think you could get your way up to high 20's. You may want to get the bottom line on the new one first before you offer the trade.

WHOSNEXT 12-21-2007 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by JasonSmith (Post 2379663)
Who cares what you "got" for your boat & what you "gave" for the new one. The thing to look at is what is called "trade difference".
Numbers can be adjusted on the trade to make you think you are getting a good deal.
In the car business we would show a person to be getting 12k for their trade when we may actually be only putting 8k in it. There may have been a 8k profit in the car we were selling, if it was sold outright, with no trade.
So now we have a 12k trade worth 8k & a car for sale that has 8k profit in it. We still made 4k on the deal that we probably palnned on only making a 4 or 5k profit on in the 1st place.
Trade difference is the ONLY number that is important! That is what yo uactually pay for the product.

Ok….let me put it in car business language for ya…..if my "trade difference" is to high….that means there not treating me fair on my trade…..is that better?

JasonSmith 12-21-2007 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by WHOSNEXT (Post 2380002)
Ok….let me put it in car business language for ya…..if my "trade difference" is to high….that means there not treating me fair on my trade…..is that better?

That is what I'm saying.

FASTTIMES 12-25-2007 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2379544)
$21K is reasonable. Here is a 99 24 pantera for $22.5 http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/6/91086136.htm

Granted, thats a hell of a deal, but competition also dictates price. 35-40 please, you can get a 28 for that price.

"Please", I would take the 25 outlaw over any 24 pantera out there. Don't get me wrong, I like Pantera's but the 24Pantera and the 25 Outlaw are two very different boats- they are not comparable.
21k is not "reasonable", I would buy every 25 outlaw I could find for 21k.

WHOSNEXT 12-26-2007 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by FASTTIMES (Post 2383388)
"Please", I would take the 25 outlaw over any 24 pantera out there. Don't get me wrong, I like Pantera's but the 24Pantera and the 25 Outlaw are two very different boats- they are not comparable.
21k is not "reasonable", I would buy every 25 outlaw I could find for 21k.

I couldn’t say better myself….

BAJA WILL 12-26-2007 01:16 PM

I agree that 21K seems a little low, however you don't have to trade! The dealer is taking a chance that your boat may be on its last leg, need a new drive or motor. If the dealer resells it and it blows up the first ride out do you think the new buyer is coming after you, no! they will go after the dealer. Also lets be very honest here, used boat sales are way down, the shift of selling your old boat is shifted to them and their overhead.

Just all to take into consideration. Either way good luck on your new boat:D

WILL

danh63 12-27-2007 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by BAJA WILL (Post 2383779)
I agree that 21K seems a little low, however you don't have to trade! The dealer is taking a chance that your boat may be on its last leg, need a new drive or motor. If the dealer resells it and it blows up the first ride out do you think the new buyer is coming after you, no! they will go after the dealer. Also lets be very honest here, used boat sales are way down, the shift of selling your old boat is shifted to them and their overhead.

Just all to take into consideration. Either way good luck on your new boat:D

WILL

that is the case with any boat. Can you imagine the price they would put on that boat and the profit they would make if they got it for $21,000?

Baja_man 12-27-2007 10:13 AM

I would assume they would put a little money back into it to make it sell and ask mid to high 30's for it.

Do boat dealers auction off used boats like they do used cars?

MahopacMarine 12-27-2007 10:30 AM

The market will help dictate what the trade in value is. It will also be determied by how much they are moving on the boat in stock. To let you know, you can also work with them on the trade in value. Alot of times they will give you a lower number to give room for negotiation. I would say somewhere around the low 30k range though.

WHOSNEXT 12-27-2007 02:47 PM

35k will buy this boat….as long as the boat I’m pursuing is still available

heavyhauler 12-28-2007 05:55 PM

Make the dealer an offer as ridiculous as the one he made you, and you might find out what the real amount of difference is that you can trade for, if you are serious. They have to start somewhere, and as you probably know, you can always go down in price but it's really hard going up when you are the seller.

WHOSNEXT 12-29-2007 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by heavyhauler (Post 2385980)
Make the dealer an offer as ridiculous as the one he made you, and you might find out what the real amount of difference is that you can trade for, if you are serious. They have to start somewhere, and as you probably know, you can always go down in price but it's really hard going up when you are the seller.

done that.....like I said before I like the boat I have and don’t mind owning it, just saw something a little bigger that I wouldn’t mind owning as well but it does not make sense to bend over for it..

Baja_man 12-29-2007 10:32 AM

"bend over for it" or "NOT bend over for it"??

WHOSNEXT 12-29-2007 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2386484)
"bend over for it" or "NOT bend over for it"??

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