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raeburn 01-31-2008 09:47 AM

single engine 29 outlaw?
 
Hi guys!
My first post here, I've been reading the threads posted over the years - lots of good reading/info! I came across an ad for a Baja 29 Outlaw (2005) that has a single 496. I never knew you could get an outlaw that big with a single motor. Has anyone seen/owned one like this? Any issues - positive or negative? The guy says it'll do 62.

JaayTeee 01-31-2008 12:22 PM

There's quite a few at LOTO, from what I've
been told, they ride good,( although the 2 29's
w/twins I had seem to ride good too)
62 on a optimistic faria speedo maybe.

Probably more like 52 true speed.


There's a couple of guys on here that have/had
29 singles, maybe the'll chime in.

I had no complaints on my 29's, other than
rear cleat placement.

socalstone 01-31-2008 06:15 PM

Yeah, I'd bet a 29 with a single would be a total pig. Unless it was putting out 1000+hp.

If you've got a 22 with 595hp you would most likely be bored to tears.

jeff32 01-31-2008 06:39 PM

never riden in a single 29-30 (except for woman !:D), so it's just an opinion from someone who does'nt really know... I would not buy this! Never!

But before going too far in this, go ahead, try it out, and let us know! So we can maybe learn if we are wrong...

I did a test one time with a friend. Same day, same ride, same speed. both 26 foot boat, he had a 454 mag, I had twin 350, spent SAME amount of gas...

That was with a single 26. so single 29 must be slow and reeeeeeally thursty!

BajaFresh 01-31-2008 08:05 PM

There is no way I would get a 29 with a single. First of all, I love my twins, especially when docking (hands off the wheel, on the sticks only). Secondly, it would definately be a dog with a single 496.

There are plenty of really nice 29 Outlaws with twins that can be had for decent money (maybe even mine! super clean 98 with only 180 hours) so I would pass on a single.

Wild Card 09 02-01-2008 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2428149)
Yeah, I'd bet a 29 with a single would be a total pig. Unless it was putting out 1000+hp.

If you've got a 22 with 595hp you would most likely be bored to tears.

I second that, bro!

I also have a twin engined boat (smallblocks, in aŽ93 Chris Craft) and it uses far less fuel than the same model with a single big block.
Look at the dash on a 29, single too. They look pretty bare with so few gauges and levers!

eddie 02-02-2008 11:38 AM

I owned a 29 single with a 454 Mag, ran round 54 on GPS. It's a awesome riding boat for LOTO. Most poeple with 29 twins at LOTO will tell you the single 29 rides much better. The speed was the only negative issue I had with the boat.

Ironmanwb 02-03-2008 12:48 PM

My only question is are you comparing the ride of each at the same speeds or both at WOT?

eddie 02-03-2008 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Ironmanwb (Post 2431465)
My only question is are you comparing the ride of each at the same speeds or both at WOT?

I was told by several twin engine 29 owners at LOTO that the single rides better than their boat. I never rode/drove a twin 29 at the lake. My understanding is at the same speeds the single rides better due to the balance/weight of the boat.

Obviosly my single with a 454 Mag wouldn't run 70 so the speeds at WOT and rides would be different.

Craig R 02-04-2008 11:02 PM

I had the same question about a month ago, and took the majority's advice and went with the twins.

I obviously haven't had the opportunity to test it at the LOTO yet but I think I made the right decision.

Also got a pretty good deal, so that goes a long way too.

JasonSmith 02-06-2008 10:26 AM

Twin 29's are ass heavy with big blocks. I would assume that is why the single engine guys say the single rides better. Either that or the single 29's are so slow the rough water is moving faster than the boat.
I will say that my boat rides better now with the boxes & 380 tabs than it did without them.

lakeoftheozarks 02-07-2008 01:26 PM

If speed is not an issue a 29ft outlaw with a single motor rides as good as my 33ft outlaw. I almost bought one from Big Thunder 2 years ago; we took it out on a test ride Sunday of Memorial Day weekend at 1pm. The boat handled incredible at 50 mph on the main channel at the 7mm hitting 3-4ft. waves. From a dead stop the boat did excellent as well although it only had 1/8 of a tank of fuel. I have talked to a lot of 29 single owners whenever one was docked at a bar, not one owner had anything bad to say about the boat as long as you are OK with only running WOT 52 and cruising at 40 mph. Speaking from experience with my last boat, there is a huge difference what a stock gaffrig liquid filled speedo reads compared to a GPS speedo by Livorsi. I made the jump from a 25 outlaw to a 33 outlaw with twin 496 HO; while the 29 may ride as good as my 33 there is no comparison when you run over 70mph down the main channel. Good luck in your decision, if you ask me the ultimate decision you need to decide is what speed do you want to run on the lake

raeburn 02-12-2008 08:59 PM

Thanks for the replies, I kinda thought a single that big would be slow (unless you're packing 1000hp in it). I'd like the smooth ride, but the lack of speed would drive me crazy!!

AIR TIME 02-14-2008 10:29 AM

600HP WOULD GET YOU 72 TO 73GPS, 850HP WOULD BE 80PLUS, I know the 2 05 sutphen 30s that came with 850hp and there doing 85 gps, now one is getting between 1000 and 1200hp this spring:D trying for 95 he hopes.

Roush97 02-17-2008 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2445031)
600HP WOULD GET YOU 72 TO 73GPS, 850HP WOULD BE 80PLUS, I know the 2 05 sutphen 30s that came with 850hp and there doing 85 gps, now one is getting between 1000 and 1200hp this spring:D trying for 95 he hopes.

just seems to me that a stock 29 with twins would be more reliable then getting a single make 850HP.

AIR TIME 02-18-2008 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Roush97 (Post 2448904)
just seems to me that a stock 29 with twins would be more reliable then getting a single make 850HP.

the right engine builder can make 850hp reliable with a blowered 540 or 598cu. in. na, I was out in the sutphen 850,5 to 6 ft sea when they called off the cape race because the wind was blowing 25 to 35mph or higher that thing just cut through the waves yes we got air lots but it was like in a pro 2 truck nice. we had a twin 30 with about 1200hp next to us I thought we had a better ride more level less weight in the back.


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